WCOOP Disqualification... "TheV0id"

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  • HobbesHobbes
    I have found a few references to a European Pro that set up and account under his sister's name and played that account when his main account busted.

    Glad to see they are not taking the same route as AP when it comes to cheating.
    Sportingnews.com Poker News wrote:
    The winner, TheV0id, played in the championship event under the same IP as one Mark Teltscher, also in that event. It is believed that Mark might have enlisted the help of his sister to create TheV0id for him. As yet, no one has been able to determine exactly who the person who played as TheV0id is.
  • moosemoose
    Yeah, disqualified for 'playing with his sister'. Stars has a little known clause in their Terms of Service banning incest.

    Thing is, the top 2 chopped, so he really doesn't gain that much, but the new 2nd place finisher does.
  • HobbesHobbes
    Apparently the chop no longer applies.

    Stars in paying out as per the original tournament payouts.
  • moosemoose
    sgfhfghfjfj
  • Whitehorse.Whitehorse.
    Yet another multi accounter story. I'm starting to wonder if it's worth it to sattellite into these things to play against these young internet pro's playing multiple accounts. This seems to be all too common.
  • KristyKristy
    maybe I'm too leniant..but unless you prove someone with two accounts is at the same table chip dumping to their other account..what's the big deal?

    (I should probably state that I don't do this..I just don't particularly care if others do.)
  • moosemoose
    Because it is like everyone else playing a freezeout but he gets one rebuy to try again.
  • KristyKristy
    yes, and rules are rules, and should be respected.

    I just don't see it as a problem if the opposite were allowed. (again provided no chip dumping) Multiple accounts paying into the prize pool..though this only works for the massive tournaments where it is almost impossible that you'd FT with both your accounts and you'd probably have to have some rule where if it did happen the account with the least chips automatically gets 9th.
  • moosemoose
    Kristy_Sea wrote: »
    yes, and rules are rules, and should be respected.

    I just don't see it as a problem if the opposite were allowed. (again provided no chip dumping) Multiple accounts paying into the prize pool..though this only works for the massive tournaments where it is almost impossible that you'd FT with both your accounts and you'd probably have to have some rule where if it did happen the account with the least chips automatically gets 9th.

    No prob. I vote everyone gets one rebuy for the rest of the Bristol events, except Kristy and Mario.
  • Whitehorse.Whitehorse.
    Some of these guys have been busted playing 5 or 6 accounts. And we don't know how many people are/were doing it. People apparrently can build up a decent stack and sell it off to one of these guys after a few hours...how this is done I haven't a clue. I think this would make my very remote chances of ever making a final table at a 200+ event a little smaller.

    Also, The guys who seem the most pissed off at the multi accounters are the legitimate mtt experts. They would understand the effects on ev.

    Or maybe I've been spending way too much time reading at 2+2 and this is overblown. I don't know.
  • KristyKristy
    moose wrote: »
    No prob. I vote everyone gets one rebuy for the rest of the Bristol events, except Kristy and Mario.

    'Cause Mario and I obv don't need one. ;)
  • m_dolensm_dolens
    i don't understand how pokerstars even let's accounts on the same IP enter into the same tournament? when i was just starting out on online poker and playing play money, i tried to get my friend and i (me on my comp and my friend on my laptop) into a play money SnG, and it wouldn't let us do it (i.e. second person signing up would get an error saying that someone with the same IP is already registered). if they do that for play money, why don't they do that for real money?

    (note: i only tried this with play money. i'm not stupid enough to try this in a real money tourney because i don't want to be losing all my winnings like thevoid ;) )
  • KristyKristy
    sngs are different than MTTs.
  • beanie42beanie42
    m_dolens wrote: »
    i don't understand how pokerstars even let's accounts on the same IP enter into the same tournament?
    College/university dorms, couples who both play, playing from work, etc. There are many people who legitimately play from the same IP.
  • HobbesHobbes
    m_dolens wrote: »
    i don't understand how pokerstars even let's accounts on the same IP enter into the same tournament?

    And it's easy to get around http://www.hide-ip-soft.com/
  • zunni74zunni74
    Hobbes wrote: »
    And it's easy to get around http://www.hide-ip-soft.com/

    There are a finite number of proxy servers in the world, and the poker sites could get a list of them pretty quickly and block/ban them all as well.
  • HobbesHobbes
    Not hard to set up new proxy servers esp when IPv6 becomes more common and we go from 32bit addresses to 128bit addresses.

    It would be a losing cause for the sites.
  • KristyKristy
    Kristy_Sea wrote: »
    sngs are different than MTTs.

    seriously, there's your answer..without software.
  • zunni74zunni74
    Hobbes wrote: »
    Not hard to set up new proxy servers esp when IPv6 becomes more common and we go from 32bit addresses to 128bit addresses.

    It would be a losing cause for the sites.

    Wow, I never thought I'd be able to have an IPv6 conversation mixed in with a good poker talk :) Nicely done.

    My thought is that there are lots of addresses now that could be used for Proxy's but they aren't that lucrative to run, it's like free, no-ads email, you can setup a box to do it pretty cheap but you don't get any real benefit out of it and so the cost is always negative. Tying it to a piece of software helps some because you are charging for the software, but software sales are a one-time cost (unless this product charges monthly??) vs. running a box(es) and the electricity and bandwidth that you have to provide being monthly costs. So availability of addressing is not an issue in comparison to TCO of running a farm of proxies. Most people who run them now are the 'protect the identity' folks (at least all the proxy owners I know) and they don't mind eating the costs.... for now. More than one have pulled the plug on the projects because there's not return on investment.

    But yeah the reason I even mention it is because the overall number of proxies in the world won't skyrocket when IPv6 comes, the issues are still the same.

    <At least in the world I live in, your world experience may vary :) >
  • Martin BandleMartin Bandle
    Kristy_Sea wrote: »
    seriously, there's your answer..without software.
    just turn around and pass me a beer..tks
  • moosemoose
    zunni74 wrote: »
    Wow, I never thought I'd be able to have an IPv6 conversation mixed in with a good poker talk :) Nicely done.

    My thought is that there are lots of addresses now that could be used for Proxy's but they aren't that lucrative to run, it's like free, no-ads email, you can setup a box to do it pretty cheap but you don't get any real benefit out of it and so the cost is always negative. Tying it to a piece of software helps some because you are charging for the software, but software sales are a one-time cost (unless this product charges monthly??) vs. running a box(es) and the electricity and bandwidth that you have to provide being monthly costs. So availability of addressing is not an issue in comparison to TCO of running a farm of proxies. Most people who run them now are the 'protect the identity' folks (at least all the proxy owners I know) and they don't mind eating the costs.... for now. More than one have pulled the plug on the projects because there's not return on investment.

    But yeah the reason I even mention it is because the overall number of proxies in the world won't skyrocket when IPv6 comes, the issues are still the same.

    <At least in the world I live in, your world experience may vary :) >

    I like meat. mmm...meat.
  • KristyKristy
    Martin Bandle wrote: »
    just turn around and pass me a beer..tks

    I feel it's part of the bet to own the humiliation as it arises...

    Chris wherever you are you'll be pleased to know: the above made me feel kinda 'stabby'

    FWIW If you laid off the odd beer, you'd probably think of better things to do with that girl when she were in giving and receiving range. ;)
  • BigChrisElBigChrisEl
    Kristy_Sea wrote: »
    I feel it's part of the bet to own the humiliation as it arises...

    Chris wherever you are you'll be pleased to know: the above made me feel kinda 'stabby'


    Just get AJ....he is ready and willing......
  • STR82ACESTR82ACE
    BigChrisEl wrote: »
    Just get AJ....he is ready and willing......

    DAMN STRAIGHT!! ;)
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