Automatic Call?
Full Tilt Poker, Table 1 - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em
Seat 1: ermanorbay (1,710)
Seat 2: HDFatboysask (7,450)
Seat 6: HERO (3,650)
Seat 8: alphahibby (690)
HDFatboysask posts the small blind of 120
HERO posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Th 4h]
alphahibby raises to 690, and is all in
ermanorbay folds
HDFatboysask folds
You have to 450 to call into a pot that is 1050.
Is this an automatic call?
To give a little bit of history the pusher has folded his last 3 to 4 BB to minimum raises. He has also folded his button and SB alot. He is very tight and has blinded himself down from about 1500 to here. So you have to assume he has some sort of hand.
Do you fold and wait him out, as he is not defending his blinds?
Ideas?
Seat 1: ermanorbay (1,710)
Seat 2: HDFatboysask (7,450)
Seat 6: HERO (3,650)
Seat 8: alphahibby (690)
HDFatboysask posts the small blind of 120
HERO posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Th 4h]
alphahibby raises to 690, and is all in
ermanorbay folds
HDFatboysask folds
You have to 450 to call into a pot that is 1050.
Is this an automatic call?
To give a little bit of history the pusher has folded his last 3 to 4 BB to minimum raises. He has also folded his button and SB alot. He is very tight and has blinded himself down from about 1500 to here. So you have to assume he has some sort of hand.
Do you fold and wait him out, as he is not defending his blinds?
Ideas?
Comments
Fold and wait him out if you're playing for 3rd place.
On first thought you'd think that since his blinds are so easy to steal that it keeps it from being an autocall... but if you think about it, the fact that his blinds are so easy to steal actually makes it more of a reason to call and try to knock him out. Because even if he doubles through, you can just steal it back
/g2
Insta.
That was the thought that was running through my head, I can keep stealing and let some one else take the risk or call and go for it.
This was as 50/50 as it gets for me.
BTW the real trouble card for me was the 10. If it was 4h-5h is was an instant call no thought.
Although I suppose it has a better chance of being dominated, a 10 is a decent card for its relative high card strength. You're more of a favorite with T4s against a random hand than 54s.
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.530% 44.20% 02.33% 927212359 48798432.50 { Td4d }
Hand 1: 53.470% 51.14% 02.33% 1072763176 48798432.50 { random }
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.453% 38.53% 02.92% 808247748 61267756.50 { 5d4d }
Hand 1: 58.547% 55.63% 02.92% 1166789139 61267756.50 { random }
Running it against a random hand doesn't apply in this case since you're pretty sure he has some kind of a hand.
/g2
True enough if his range as read by the OP wouldn't include connectors lower than 10. But the 10 shouldn't give pause in the situation even if it is more likely dominated than 54 would be. The odds are still there.
Automatic call is HDFatboysask called.
If you are stealing a lot then you probably don't want to show this hand, or it might lead to the other players being more defensive of their blinds.
/g2
/g2
/g2
Now if the whole table was tight because of the money bubble and you are stealing relentlessly do you fold so you can keep picking up the blinds?
On the bubble, it is a good thing to let people know you'll defend with garbage. I expect that makes them much less likely to want to tangle with you. Regardless of the outcome of the hand, make sure you say "Nobody messes with MY blind!"
On the other hand, I think Sklansky wrote something a while back about folding a hand as good as QQ on the bubble to an all-in raise in order to keep the bubble going and allow yourself to continue stealing like crazy and building your stack. Perhaps someone recalls that concept?
That was what I was getting at.
Haven't read Sklansky myself, but I'm pretty sure that only applies to MTTs, not SNGs.
/g2
Sort of a similar situation, however, the 1000 chips represents almost 30% of your stack and you are unlikely to accumulate that many by stealing before the bubble bursts. So go ahead and burst it yourself. With the added benefit that people are less likely to be trying to steal your blind if you lose.