loooooosing money

stoneskn

i lost $180 last night at brantford casino. Do you think i can ever make it back (it was 5/10 game)? I was playing tight aggressive, but my cards kept getting turned down!! I was getting reraised by 'maniacs' and I folded...... when i DIDN"T FOLD, he'd cream me at the showdown, and i lost a whole whach o' chips.... :mad:

BigChrisEl

stoneskn wrote:

i lost $180 last night at brantford casino. Do you think i can ever make it back (it was 5/10 game)? I was playing tight aggressive, but my cards kept getting turned down!! I was getting reraised by 'maniacs' and I folded...... when i DIDN"T FOLD, he'd cream me at the showdown, and i lost a whole whach o' chips.... :mad:

I never consider it losing money when I play.

You lose the money as soon as you get you chips. If would walk away with chips at the end then it is a bonus , if you have more chips then you started then it is real bonus.

I find that as soon as I start looking at my chips as money my playing style goes right in the garbage.

Sometime I find no matter what you do or how you play, you'll get beat for the night.

BBC Z

i lost $180 last night at brantford casino. Do you think i can ever make it back (it was 5/10 game)? I was playing tight aggressive, but my cards kept getting turned down!! I was getting reraised by 'maniacs' and I folded...... when i DIDN"T FOLD, he'd cream me at the showdown, and i lost a whole whach o' chips....

Think of it this way, you are down 18BB. Have you ever been down 18BB before? Everyone has.. What concerns me is your talk about the maniac(s).. Either they were running lucky against you and catching cards (meh, it happens) , or it may be a signal that theres a leak in your game somewhere that they were exploiting...

ScottyZ

A losing session of $180 at a $5-$10 game is certainly of reasonable size.

It might help the discussion if you posted the full details (as best you can) of some specific hands and/or specific plays you made. Okay, change "might" to "would greatly".

Also, what do you mean exactly by "maniac"? Against someone I would designate a maniac, I wouldn't be folding too many solid hands to their bets/raises.

It's difficult to get a handle on things when someone gives subjective descriptions of themselves (for example, "tight"). I once had a player tell me he was playing "tight" in a low-limit game. I asked him if he would play KJ unsuited from middle position, and he looked at me like I was from Mars when he replied, "Yeah, of course."

Remember that (cash game) poker is one long game. Don't focus specifically on the money you lost or on winning it back. Focus on how to make your game better.

ScottyZ

harthgosh

180$ is not much to be down at the 5-10. 18BB's. Apparently an expert player can go through -100bb's in a bad streak within mathematically reasonable deviation.

:canada: see you all later in the tourney.

BEAT THE FINS

Dave Scharf

I am with ScottyZ here. Without a little more detail it is hard to offer too much advice. Certainly, against maniacs in a low-limit game like $5-10 then tight-aggressive is almost certainly the way to go. Somtimes variance is your friend. And, sometimes... well, sometimes it leaves you wanting to nosebarf.

MickeyHoldem

hmmm... nosebarf.

I believe that is the first time I have seen that word in print!:D

stoneskn

WOW! You guys are awesome. The thing about pro's deviation is true. I had never thought about that. I guess the main thing is to focus on the long term, stay tight, and not focus on all the beatings. I've won good pots too. ok. blah blah

I'm a tight but aggr/passive player. I get nervous when others so confidently raise and/or re-raise me. SOmetimes i tilt, and start playing garbage, and i lose. I watch the others and they WIN HUGE w/ garbage ( something i KNOW I should not emulate)

Maybe I'm just not used to losing money. I mean, 18BigBets is nothing to cry over. I'll just have to play a little tighter, and see fewer flops... I'll just have to go back there, and get my money back, the good old fashioned way! (pick their pockets)

harthgosh

HI

Nice pic stonskin, and nosebarf.. what a word indeed.

Anyways, I took this advice years ago and it helped me so i'll pass it on to you. If you get nervous at the $5-10, go find a 1-2$ table, sit with 100$ and reraise everything on every street for a while.
U will learn what it feels like to cap people with garbage, you will also see alot of interesting stuff from your opponents playin their strong hands vs a maniac.


If you lose it all, you will know how it feels to lose 50bb in a session, and who knows, maybe you will get lucky and paid off like a LAP should.
:canada: easiest money i ever made, thanks wayne.

wader

ScottyZ wrote:

It's difficult to get a handle on things when someone gives subjective descriptions of themselves (for example, "tight"). I once had a player tell me he was playing "tight" in a low-limit game. I asked him if he would play KJ unsuited from middle position, and he looked at me like I was from Mars when he replied, "Yeah, of course."

I know that this is a weak hand, but I'm just curious......In a CASH game would you limp in with this hand? I may be wrong but I certainly would, unless I had some sort of tell that there was going to be a raise behind me.

ScottyZ

wader wrote:

I know that this is a weak hand, but I'm just curious......In a CASH game would you limp in with this hand? I may be wrong but I certainly would, unless I had some sort of tell that there was going to be a raise behind me.

Not usually, but "it depends"^TM.

ScottyZ

Dave Scharf

Under "normal" conditions I would raise as the first one in with K-Jo. But "it depends" (used with permission of ScottyZ) upon what the game conditions are like. Loose and aggressive game I might fold and in a loose passive game I might limp.