Seneca - Shopsy&Folded Tourney Report
Okay, this is going to be short and sweet as I don't remember many hands.
First tournament we played in was the $150+20 $3500 chips and 15 minute blind levels. Blinds certainly quick, but, had 108 register for this one. Top 18 paid, basically 10-18 made $300US and then up from 9th and down.
We are at break with 19 left and we realize at least one of us with cash in this. I eventually bust for 13th and Shopsy 8th. They withhold our 30% tax and I cash for $210 and Shopsy for $325 or so.
Next night, big $200+20, 30 min blind levels and $4,000 chips. I am gathering chips early with so unusual aggressive play. We are down to about 60 on break and we are both still in it again! 160 registered for this one.
I believe Shopsy busts at 27th and I am still alive with about $28,000 with average of $30,000 or so with 20 left. Top 18 pay again with 10-18 getting $400 and top prize over $9,000.
We have 19 remaining and I'm in the big blind. There is about 23 seconds left before the 45 minute dinner break. The last 4 orbits, button who has slightly less than me has shoved with all folds in front of him and gather the pot at 1200 / 2400 with 100 ante or something like that.
10 seconds left he raises to $5,000???? SB folds and I see AH 6H. I call. (Now here's what got me in trouble). Of the last 40 hands, the button has acted out of turn with all in moves on 3 of 6 hands post flop.
FLop
QH JH 10D
I "re-check" my cards, just as I am about to shove, he acts out of turn and says all in! Now I need to think. We are on dinner break and if call, I have about $4K left and basically out?
I think about it, flush draw, probably an over and a gutshot? I CALL !
He flips K 10 offsuit.
Turn 6C. Okay, a few more outs.
River a brick. If I act quicker post flop, he lays down the hand and I am in probably at least 8-10th spot after dinner.
First hand after dinner I'm the button and shove with A 8 for a chop. Up to $7K or so.
Still at 19, I'm under the gun and see AC QC. I shove, 2 callers.
Flop JD 10D 5S
Turn 7D (now chipleader and 3 in chips are both all in and I know I'm done)
River JC
Chipleader shows 55 and 3rd place is gone with AD 2D. He busts 18th and I bubble at 19.
Good tourneys, good players but some donks.
Good to make the trek and we both went pretty deep in both. Tiring poker though.
First tournament we played in was the $150+20 $3500 chips and 15 minute blind levels. Blinds certainly quick, but, had 108 register for this one. Top 18 paid, basically 10-18 made $300US and then up from 9th and down.
We are at break with 19 left and we realize at least one of us with cash in this. I eventually bust for 13th and Shopsy 8th. They withhold our 30% tax and I cash for $210 and Shopsy for $325 or so.
Next night, big $200+20, 30 min blind levels and $4,000 chips. I am gathering chips early with so unusual aggressive play. We are down to about 60 on break and we are both still in it again! 160 registered for this one.
I believe Shopsy busts at 27th and I am still alive with about $28,000 with average of $30,000 or so with 20 left. Top 18 pay again with 10-18 getting $400 and top prize over $9,000.
We have 19 remaining and I'm in the big blind. There is about 23 seconds left before the 45 minute dinner break. The last 4 orbits, button who has slightly less than me has shoved with all folds in front of him and gather the pot at 1200 / 2400 with 100 ante or something like that.
10 seconds left he raises to $5,000???? SB folds and I see AH 6H. I call. (Now here's what got me in trouble). Of the last 40 hands, the button has acted out of turn with all in moves on 3 of 6 hands post flop.
FLop
QH JH 10D
I "re-check" my cards, just as I am about to shove, he acts out of turn and says all in! Now I need to think. We are on dinner break and if call, I have about $4K left and basically out?
I think about it, flush draw, probably an over and a gutshot? I CALL !
He flips K 10 offsuit.
Turn 6C. Okay, a few more outs.
River a brick. If I act quicker post flop, he lays down the hand and I am in probably at least 8-10th spot after dinner.
First hand after dinner I'm the button and shove with A 8 for a chop. Up to $7K or so.
Still at 19, I'm under the gun and see AC QC. I shove, 2 callers.
Flop JD 10D 5S
Turn 7D (now chipleader and 3 in chips are both all in and I know I'm done)
River JC
Chipleader shows 55 and 3rd place is gone with AD 2D. He busts 18th and I bubble at 19.
Good tourneys, good players but some donks.
Good to make the trek and we both went pretty deep in both. Tiring poker though.
Comments
Prophet :2h :2s
This may be a state specific number though.
Does the 30% withholding make it -EV for most players?
What's the process to get part of it back?
Since most Canadian players won't end up applying for a refund, the 30% becomes an unbeatable additional rake from the US government. An "average" player who wins $10,000 after entering 10 $1,070 tournaments would have lost $700 (Seneca's total rake), but because of the 30% withholding, his loss increases to $3,700! A very good player who only takes an average of 7 tournaments to win a $10,000 prize will still end up losing money. Playing taxable games in the US has become highly -EV for most Canadians!