Exposed card ruling?

esoolesool
in Brick & Mortar Casino Talk
NLH tourney.

Everyone has received their 2 cards and the dealer accidently exposes the burn card before anyone has acted, pre flop.
a. The exposed card is shuffled back in or
b. The exposed card is declared to all and remains the burn card.

Comments

  • g2g2
    b.........

    /g2
  • 13CARDS13CARDS
    100% answer b
  • 800OVER800OVER
    Unless you're the host and the burn card could help your hand....then 1000% a)
  • The Prophet 22The Prophet 22
    800OVER wrote: »
    Unless you're the host and the burn card could help your hand....then 1000% a)???


    100% answer b
  • beanie42beanie42
    b.........
  • BoyBlueBoyBlue
    just like when a players card is exposed and it becomes the burn card the answer is B. Still remains the burn card
  • esoolesool
    Thanks for clearing this up for me guys.
  • 13CARDS13CARDS
    HIJACK:

    When the dealer deals a card off of the table onto the floor, that card is:

    a. still live and plays
    b. still live, but will become the exposed burn card
    c. dead (and therefore changes the flop)


    A boxed card found face-up in the deck:

    a. is live and plays where is comes out
    b. is live but will be treated as pre-exposed, whereever it may come out
    c. is dead
  • moosemoose
    bc

    asdgasdfg
  • AcidJoeAcidJoe
    Agree with the moose, B C

    Had to say it that way so my post is long enough
  • 13CARDS13CARDS
    50% correct
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    As in most things in poker, the correct answer is
    IT DEPENDS!
    Every card room has different house rules. Robert's Rules are different from TDA rules, which are different from what every casino uses. I have seen loud arguments where one player insists that he knows the correct rule because it happened to him at Casino Rama, then the other player shouts back that he is 100% correct because he saw it at Niagara, then I inform them that IT DEPENDS on the house rule.
    13CARDS wrote: »
    When the dealer deals a card off of the table onto the floor, that card is:

    a. still live and plays
    b. still live, but will become the exposed burn card
    c. dead (and therefore changes the flop)

    In one casino, the correct answer is C. As a Supervisor, I would examine the card, then place it with the discards; it will not used be used in that round of play.
    A boxed card found face-up in the deck:

    a. is live and plays where is comes out
    b. is live but will be treated as pre-exposed, whereever it may come out
    c. is dead

    In one casino, the correct answer is all of the above, depending on when the boxed card comes out. For example, if it is positioned to be a community card and has not been prematurely exposed, it will remain a community card and will still play in the hand.
  • 13CARDS13CARDS
    BlondeFish wrote: »
    In one casino, the correct answer is all of the above, depending on when the boxed card comes out. For example, if it is positioned to be a community card and has not been prematurely exposed, it will remain a community card and will still play in the hand.

    And when would it be dead? Would you not have to consider a boxed card exposed at any time as you cannot know for sure that no player has seen it while the dealer was dealing/handling chips/making change/etc...?
  • ArchieArchie
    esool wrote: »
    NLH tourney.

    Everyone has received their 2 cards and the dealer accidently exposes the burn card before anyone has acted, pre flop.
    a. The exposed card is shuffled back in or
    b. The exposed card is declared to all and remains the burn card.

    b. ...unless it is the river card and then it is a.
  • JimmyHoJimmyHo
    I never understood why the five community cards could not be dealt all at once to save some time; I understand the burn card is more for tradition and/or in case the top card gets exposed for some reason. But if all five cards are dealt at once, exposing the top card is no longer an issue. Just wondered what people thought of this issue. I have seen this done at a home game before and it seemed to work.
  • 13CARDS13CARDS
    pokerJAH wrote: »
    I never understood why the five community cards could not be dealt all at once to save some time; I understand the burn card is more for tradition and/or in case the top card gets exposed for some reason. But if all five cards are dealt at once, exposing the top card is no longer an issue. Just wondered what people thought of this issue. I have seen this done at a home game before and it seemed to work.

    What if the backs of the cards are marked? Now, someone might know what all of the cards are before each betting round...
  • JimmyHoJimmyHo
    13CARDS wrote: »
    What if the backs of the cards are marked? Now, someone might know what all of the cards are before each betting round...

    if the back of the cards are marked, then they probably know your cards as well; I guess that was the original intent. Good point.
  • BoyBlueBoyBlue
    plus if all 5 went down at once it kills the betting rounds and its more gambling then playing ur player.
  • 13CARDS13CARDS
    BoyBlue wrote: »
    plus if all 5 went down at once it kills the betting rounds and its more gambling then playing ur player.

    I think he means put tham all face down first and then just turn over each street as needed.
  • JimmyHoJimmyHo
    exactly; no change to betting rounds.
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    If the card comes out during the delivery of the first two cards to each player, I would treat it as an exposed card, and will become an exposed burn card. I know that Robert's Rules instead treats a boxed card as a scrap of paper. What is Fallsview Casino's house rule?
    13CARDS wrote: »
    And when would it be dead? Would you not have to consider a boxed card exposed at any time as you cannot know for sure that no player has seen it while the dealer was dealing/handling chips/making change/etc...?
  • AcidJoeAcidJoe
    That is what I assumed 13Cards.....But if the cards are marked hopefully someone picks it up as I have only rarely seen marked cards in a casino. In a home game I've watched people mark cards or bend corners etc.
  • esoolesool
    AcidJoe wrote: »
    In a home game I've watched people mark cards or bend corners etc.

    Sounds like a friendly home game!
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