cash game advise?
I really suck at cash game
i am amazing, at .15/.25 level of cash game, people call raise with any 2 card, but that's ok, the problem is, they get lucky on me alot.
AA on a A34, people call my 4X raise with 25, I can't put them on 25, one buyin gone
AK flop KK8, because flush draw out there, I play it fast, they make their flush. another buyin gone (allin on the turn, complete the flush on the river)
A10, flop 10 10 3, bet 1/4 the pot.
i got raise it. i call
Turn is 3, (all the money goes in, what are the chance he has 33, if he has a 10, it's a spilt, if he has a 3, i'll make money.)
River is 8. (he has 8 10...come on)
another buyin gone........
J10 on a 897 flop, one guy has 88, so all the money goes in on the flop.
turn is 7.WTF...one more buy in gone.......
the worse thing is, when i actually has the nutz, it's split pot i actually got less money return due to the rack (can't even win money with the nutz WTF?)
this is out of 300 hand play. I suck!!! I lost 100 dollar just like that......
I want to ask, Is this just not my day, or i play it wrong?
the way they play, they would be consider fishes at tourny, but cash game, i see those people constantly increase their stack. So they must be doing something right.
one more
AQ on a KJ9 turn 3 river 5
I raise 3x going in.
check to me on the flop
i continue bet on the flop ., all fold but one.
turn he check, I bet 1/2 the pot, he called.
River, he check again, I don't think he has anything strong. so I bet the pot. try to push him out.
he call.
card turn over, he has 44. took at big pot off me.
Is that at really skilled player, or just a callingstation?????
even the callingstation at the tourny, can't make that call.....
i am amazing, at .15/.25 level of cash game, people call raise with any 2 card, but that's ok, the problem is, they get lucky on me alot.
AA on a A34, people call my 4X raise with 25, I can't put them on 25, one buyin gone
AK flop KK8, because flush draw out there, I play it fast, they make their flush. another buyin gone (allin on the turn, complete the flush on the river)
A10, flop 10 10 3, bet 1/4 the pot.
i got raise it. i call
Turn is 3, (all the money goes in, what are the chance he has 33, if he has a 10, it's a spilt, if he has a 3, i'll make money.)
River is 8. (he has 8 10...come on)
another buyin gone........
J10 on a 897 flop, one guy has 88, so all the money goes in on the flop.
turn is 7.WTF...one more buy in gone.......
the worse thing is, when i actually has the nutz, it's split pot i actually got less money return due to the rack (can't even win money with the nutz WTF?)
this is out of 300 hand play. I suck!!! I lost 100 dollar just like that......
I want to ask, Is this just not my day, or i play it wrong?
the way they play, they would be consider fishes at tourny, but cash game, i see those people constantly increase their stack. So they must be doing something right.
one more
AQ on a KJ9 turn 3 river 5
I raise 3x going in.
check to me on the flop
i continue bet on the flop ., all fold but one.
turn he check, I bet 1/2 the pot, he called.
River, he check again, I don't think he has anything strong. so I bet the pot. try to push him out.
he call.
card turn over, he has 44. took at big pot off me.
Is that at really skilled player, or just a callingstation?????
even the callingstation at the tourny, can't make that call.....
Comments
I can tell by the writing you are feeling very emotional right now. Sadly, in that state, it is impossible to win at poker. You seem to have the right idea (play tight) but there is also alot more to poker than that. Know your opponent; you describe your opponents vaguely. You cannot beat a man if you do not know what type of person he is. Is he a LAG? or a TAG? Why do you think that? Is he a rock? Playing poker without analyzing exactly who your opponents are is like craps, except you have a better chance of winning at craps.
All of your posts list a number of beats you take where the opponents draws out on you or hits a miracle card. Newsflash - it happens to all of us. We just don't post them ALL on here.
Here's a couple of things to consider:
- if you don't want to be called by 2-5 when you raise with AA, raise more than 4X. So what if you just steal the blinds, it's better than losing. Personally, I'm all for that guy calling me pre-flop. I'll win more than I lose with those hands vs. each other.
- The guy who had 33 hit a one-outer. ONE out! If you're not comfortable getting your money in when another player has only ONE out, there's somthing seriously wrong.
- Historically, in your posts, you seem to get greedy when you have a big hand and try to slowplay or bet lower to earn more profit, which opens the door to a suckout. Learn how much to bet to reduce or eliminate pot odds for your opponents. If the table is full of donkeys and they call anything, then make them PAY when you have a hand.
You will NOT win every hand, even if you were leading. That's just the way the game works. Play better and it won't bother you as much.
Sorry.
This can be done 2 ways, either you jam it all in on the flop and make them pay for chasing their flush draw, which you did, or check it down and hope they don't catch. Me? I am jamming it all in on the flop and making them pay to chase. You made the right move, but sometimes people will call a huge push just because they are getting the right odds to call.
Why did you only bet 1/4 the pot? Bet at least pot, you have top set with top kicker!
Why did you only call his raise? He raises you, JAM it all in right there.
Tough break, would you fold a set on the flop?
Nowhere near enough hands. Check back after at least 10k.
He obv gave you no respect for your hand whatsoever. He read your bluff, made the right decisions everytime, and he didn't take a big pot off of you at all, you were never ahead. What makes you think he doesn't have anything strong? Certainly not his calling pattern. You just played it badly and got caught. It happens. Learn to fold.
The guy didn't actually have 33, that was Chuckie seeing monsters under the bed. He had 8T and rivered his boat.
I am still finding out cash game, so far. it's not a smooth start.
sometime i just found, it's very hard to win a hand
/g2
"Trying to max my revenue"
This is your problem Chuckie. At this stage of your poker career, you should be concerned with winning the pot. Squeezing every cent out of your opponent is something that comes with experience.
Win instead of losing first...then expand.
This is a trend in all of your posts...you try for too much. I suggest you alter your goals, at least temporarily to "I want to win this pot, period."
I will try to make that change.
I have to say, my metal place at poker is all wrong right now.
punish them for the draw, but i end up absort the punishment.
this has me afraid to bet....i manage to convience myself that no matter what i have, someone else has something better, or will make draw to something better.....i'll rest and get this thing out of my head first, before i start playing again.