Good, Bad, or Ugly?
Hey all... a few hand histories.. I seem to fucking SUCK at cash games.
Seriously, I have bled out about $700 this month in cash games... WTF is going on? (AND I PLAY .25/.50!!!)
Assume no reads unless otherwise noted.
So, does everyone go broke here? Sure, board paired, yadda yadda, but ..?
HAND 1: Had position, maybe a loose call? we'll see.
POKERSTARS GAME #8688814243: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/03/01 - 17:21:03 (ET)
Table 'Oileus' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Kublathedog ($28.15 in chips)
Seat 2: DrTyore ($42.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Tokay1 ($10.95 in chips)
Seat 5: kmcmul3492 ($37.80 in chips)
Seat 6: madx ($22.75 in chips)
Seat 7: bobobdave ($22.20 in chips)
Seat 8: klinczer ($4 in chips)
Seat 9: [EMAIL="B@bylon"]B@bylon[/EMAIL] ($11.45 in chips)
madx: posts small blind $0.10
bobobdave: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrTyore [8c 9c]
klinczer: calls $0.25
[EMAIL="B@bylon"]B@bylon[/EMAIL]: calls $0.25
Kublathedog: folds
DrTyore: calls $0.25
Tokay1: folds
kmcmul3492: calls $0.25
madx: raises $1 to $1.25
bobobdave: folds
klinczer: folds
[EMAIL="B@bylon"]B@bylon[/EMAIL]: folds
DrTyore: calls $1
kmcmul3492: folds
*** FLOP *** [5c 7s Jd]
madx: bets $1
DrTyore: raises $1.50 to $2.50
madx: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [5c 7s Jd] [7h]
madx: checks
DrTyore: checks
*** RIVER *** [5c 7s Jd 7h] [Tc]
madx: bets $7
DrTyore: raises $7 to $14
madx: raises $5 to $19 and is all-in
DrTyore: calls $5
*** SHOW DOWN ***
madx: shows [Th Ts] (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)
DrTyore: mucks hand
madx collected $44.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $46.50 | Rake $2.30
Board [5c 7s Jd 7h Tc]
Seat 1: Kublathedog folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DrTyore mucked [8c 9c]
Seat 4: Tokay1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kmcmul3492 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 6: madx (small blind) showed [Th Ts] and won ($44.20) with a full house, Tens full of Sevens
Seat 7: bobobdave (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: klinczer folded before Flop
Seat 9: [EMAIL="B@bylon"]B@bylon[/EMAIL] folded before Flop
Hand 2 - How not to play AK....
Sure I overplayed a bit, but the villain is SOOOO loose preflop, and if he hits ANYTHING he's betting
FullTiltPoker Game #1894253543: Table Wolf Dancer - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:55:10 ET - 2007/02/28
Seat 1: DrTyore ($83)
Seat 2: katsup ($21.10)
Seat 3: vurnakes12 ($51.15)
Seat 4: dobieatwar ($18.65)
Seat 5: B-flat Major ($46.85)
Seat 6: lamebrain3 ($50.95)
Seat 7: thosta77 ($50), is sitting out
Seat 8: depraved8192 ($16.30)
Seat 9: nebadon77 ($68.55)
lamebrain3 posts the small blind of $0.25
depraved8192 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrTyore [As Ks]
nebadon77 has 15 seconds left to act
nebadon77 folds
DrTyore raises to $2
katsup folds
vurnakes12 calls $2
dobieatwar folds
B-flat Major folds
lamebrain3 folds
depraved8192 folds
*** FLOP *** [5c 4s Ah]
DrTyore bets $4.50
vurnakes12 raises to $11
DrTyore calls $6.50
*** TURN *** [5c 4s Ah] [Tc]
DrTyore checks
thosta77 stands up
vurnakes12 bets $20
DrTyore raises to $40
NoBogey sits down
vurnakes12 calls $18.15, and is all in
DrTyore shows [As Ks]
vurnakes12 shows [2c 3c]
NoBogey adds $50
Uncalled bet of $1.85 returned to DrTyore
*** RIVER *** [5c 4s Ah Tc] [5h]
DrTyore shows two pair, Aces and Fives
vurnakes12 shows a straight, Five high
vurnakes12 wins the pot ($100.05) with a straight, Five high
DrTyore: brilliant call
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $103.05 | Rake $3
Board: [5c 4s Ah Tc 5h]
Seat 1: DrTyore showed [As Ks] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 2: katsup didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: vurnakes12 showed [2c 3c] and won ($100.05) with a straight, Five high
Seat 4: dobieatwar didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: B-flat Major (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: lamebrain3 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: thosta77 is sitting out
Seat 8: depraved8192 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: nebadon77 didn't bet (folded)
Yea yea.. shoulda folded on the flop... but 23? really?
Hand 3 - I hate this guy
Dude gives me NO credit, and had filled up on the river about 3 times on my top pair / better kicker
Don't really need comments on this one, I think I played perfectly and the poker gods decided to anally rape me
FullTiltPoker Game #1801077305: Table Cavaliers - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:56:31 ET - 2007/02/15
Seat 1: PretenderTUW ($56.60)
Seat 2: Moist Socket ($43.75)
Seat 3: mindyboston ($34.60)
Seat 4: HakanTurkey ($58.75), is sitting out
Seat 5: B MIK ($91.85)
Seat 6: PokerDandy ($49.95)
Seat 7: catch016 ($47.50)
Seat 8: petridsh ($43.10)
Seat 9: DrTyore ($44.50)
petridsh posts the small blind of $0.25
DrTyore posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrTyore [7d 7c]
PretenderTUW folds
Moist Socket folds
mindyboston folds
B MIK calls $0.50
PokerDandy raises to $2
catch016 folds
petridsh folds
DrTyore calls $1.50
B MIK folds
*** FLOP *** [7s Td As]
DrTyore checks
PokerDandy bets $4
DrTyore raises to $15
PokerDandy raises to $40.50
DrTyore raises to $42.50, and is all in
PokerDandy calls $2
DrTyore shows [7d 7c]
PokerDandy shows [Kh Ad]
*** TURN *** [7s Td As] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [7s Td As Qs] [Jc]
DrTyore shows three of a kind, Sevens
PokerDandy shows a straight, Ace high
PokerDandy wins the pot ($86.75) with a straight, Ace high
DrTyore is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $89.75 | Rake $3
Board: [7s Td As Qs Jc]
Seat 1: PretenderTUW didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Moist Socket didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: mindyboston didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: HakanTurkey is sitting out
Seat 5: B MIK folded before the Flop
Seat 6: PokerDandy showed [Kh Ad] and won ($86.75) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 7: catch016 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: petridsh (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: DrTyore (big blind) showed [7d 7c] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Hand 4 - Even when I'm bluffing I'm ahead, and lose
This is just a bad beat / freaky hand.. and I'm kinda did and didn't overplay this one... Sklansky don't know s#it.
Villain will call with any piece of the board or any draw - pot odds be damned.
POKERSTARS GAME #8688380604: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/03/01 - 16:53:59 (ET)
Table 'Oileus' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: opokeme ($4.45 in chips)
Seat 2: DrTyore ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 3: j4ckd4ni3lz ($9.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Tokay1 ($15.25 in chips)
Seat 5: kmcmul3492 ($14.75 in chips)
Seat 6: madx ($17.95 in chips)
Seat 7: bobobdave ($25 in chips)
Seat 9: ritschi29 ($18.55 in chips)
DrTyore: posts small blind $0.10
j4ckd4ni3lz: posts big blind $0.25
ritschi29: posts small & big blinds $0.35
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrTyore [Qc As]
Tokay1: folds
kmcmul3492: calls $0.25
madx: calls $0.25
bobobdave: folds
ritschi29: checks
opokeme: folds
DrTyore: raises $1.75 to $2
j4ckd4ni3lz: folds
kmcmul3492: folds
madx: folds
ritschi29: calls $1.75
*** FLOP *** [Ts 8s 6d]
DrTyore: bets $4
ritschi29: calls $4
*** TURN *** [Ts 8s 6d] [2d]
DrTyore: bets $4
ritschi29: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [Ts 8s 6d 2d] [Jd]
DrTyore: bets $8.50
ritschi29: calls $8.45 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DrTyore: shows [Qc As] (high card Ace)
ritschi29: shows [Jc Qh] (a pair of Jacks)
klinczer joins the table at seat #8
ritschi29 collected $35.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $37.75 | Rake $1.80
Board [Ts 8s 6d 2d Jd]
Seat 1: opokeme (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DrTyore (small blind) showed [Qc As] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 3: j4ckd4ni3lz (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Tokay1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kmcmul3492 folded before Flop
Seat 6: madx folded before Flop
Seat 7: bobobdave folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ritschi29 showed [Jc Qh] and won ($35.95) with a pair of Jacks
Fuck.. I'm just so damned frustrated right now...
Mark
Seriously, I have bled out about $700 this month in cash games... WTF is going on? (AND I PLAY .25/.50!!!)
Assume no reads unless otherwise noted.
So, does everyone go broke here? Sure, board paired, yadda yadda, but ..?
HAND 1: Had position, maybe a loose call? we'll see.
POKERSTARS GAME #8688814243: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/03/01 - 17:21:03 (ET)
Table 'Oileus' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Kublathedog ($28.15 in chips)
Seat 2: DrTyore ($42.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Tokay1 ($10.95 in chips)
Seat 5: kmcmul3492 ($37.80 in chips)
Seat 6: madx ($22.75 in chips)
Seat 7: bobobdave ($22.20 in chips)
Seat 8: klinczer ($4 in chips)
Seat 9: [EMAIL="B@bylon"]B@bylon[/EMAIL] ($11.45 in chips)
madx: posts small blind $0.10
bobobdave: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrTyore [8c 9c]
klinczer: calls $0.25
[EMAIL="B@bylon"]B@bylon[/EMAIL]: calls $0.25
Kublathedog: folds
DrTyore: calls $0.25
Tokay1: folds
kmcmul3492: calls $0.25
madx: raises $1 to $1.25
bobobdave: folds
klinczer: folds
[EMAIL="B@bylon"]B@bylon[/EMAIL]: folds
DrTyore: calls $1
kmcmul3492: folds
*** FLOP *** [5c 7s Jd]
madx: bets $1
DrTyore: raises $1.50 to $2.50
madx: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [5c 7s Jd] [7h]
madx: checks
DrTyore: checks
*** RIVER *** [5c 7s Jd 7h] [Tc]
madx: bets $7
DrTyore: raises $7 to $14
madx: raises $5 to $19 and is all-in
DrTyore: calls $5
*** SHOW DOWN ***
madx: shows [Th Ts] (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)
DrTyore: mucks hand
madx collected $44.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $46.50 | Rake $2.30
Board [5c 7s Jd 7h Tc]
Seat 1: Kublathedog folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DrTyore mucked [8c 9c]
Seat 4: Tokay1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kmcmul3492 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 6: madx (small blind) showed [Th Ts] and won ($44.20) with a full house, Tens full of Sevens
Seat 7: bobobdave (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: klinczer folded before Flop
Seat 9: [EMAIL="B@bylon"]B@bylon[/EMAIL] folded before Flop
Hand 2 - How not to play AK....
Sure I overplayed a bit, but the villain is SOOOO loose preflop, and if he hits ANYTHING he's betting
FullTiltPoker Game #1894253543: Table Wolf Dancer - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:55:10 ET - 2007/02/28
Seat 1: DrTyore ($83)
Seat 2: katsup ($21.10)
Seat 3: vurnakes12 ($51.15)
Seat 4: dobieatwar ($18.65)
Seat 5: B-flat Major ($46.85)
Seat 6: lamebrain3 ($50.95)
Seat 7: thosta77 ($50), is sitting out
Seat 8: depraved8192 ($16.30)
Seat 9: nebadon77 ($68.55)
lamebrain3 posts the small blind of $0.25
depraved8192 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrTyore [As Ks]
nebadon77 has 15 seconds left to act
nebadon77 folds
DrTyore raises to $2
katsup folds
vurnakes12 calls $2
dobieatwar folds
B-flat Major folds
lamebrain3 folds
depraved8192 folds
*** FLOP *** [5c 4s Ah]
DrTyore bets $4.50
vurnakes12 raises to $11
DrTyore calls $6.50
*** TURN *** [5c 4s Ah] [Tc]
DrTyore checks
thosta77 stands up
vurnakes12 bets $20
DrTyore raises to $40
NoBogey sits down
vurnakes12 calls $18.15, and is all in
DrTyore shows [As Ks]
vurnakes12 shows [2c 3c]
NoBogey adds $50
Uncalled bet of $1.85 returned to DrTyore
*** RIVER *** [5c 4s Ah Tc] [5h]
DrTyore shows two pair, Aces and Fives
vurnakes12 shows a straight, Five high
vurnakes12 wins the pot ($100.05) with a straight, Five high
DrTyore: brilliant call
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $103.05 | Rake $3
Board: [5c 4s Ah Tc 5h]
Seat 1: DrTyore showed [As Ks] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 2: katsup didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: vurnakes12 showed [2c 3c] and won ($100.05) with a straight, Five high
Seat 4: dobieatwar didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: B-flat Major (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: lamebrain3 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: thosta77 is sitting out
Seat 8: depraved8192 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: nebadon77 didn't bet (folded)
Yea yea.. shoulda folded on the flop... but 23? really?
Hand 3 - I hate this guy
Dude gives me NO credit, and had filled up on the river about 3 times on my top pair / better kicker
Don't really need comments on this one, I think I played perfectly and the poker gods decided to anally rape me
FullTiltPoker Game #1801077305: Table Cavaliers - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:56:31 ET - 2007/02/15
Seat 1: PretenderTUW ($56.60)
Seat 2: Moist Socket ($43.75)
Seat 3: mindyboston ($34.60)
Seat 4: HakanTurkey ($58.75), is sitting out
Seat 5: B MIK ($91.85)
Seat 6: PokerDandy ($49.95)
Seat 7: catch016 ($47.50)
Seat 8: petridsh ($43.10)
Seat 9: DrTyore ($44.50)
petridsh posts the small blind of $0.25
DrTyore posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrTyore [7d 7c]
PretenderTUW folds
Moist Socket folds
mindyboston folds
B MIK calls $0.50
PokerDandy raises to $2
catch016 folds
petridsh folds
DrTyore calls $1.50
B MIK folds
*** FLOP *** [7s Td As]
DrTyore checks
PokerDandy bets $4
DrTyore raises to $15
PokerDandy raises to $40.50
DrTyore raises to $42.50, and is all in
PokerDandy calls $2
DrTyore shows [7d 7c]
PokerDandy shows [Kh Ad]
*** TURN *** [7s Td As] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [7s Td As Qs] [Jc]
DrTyore shows three of a kind, Sevens
PokerDandy shows a straight, Ace high
PokerDandy wins the pot ($86.75) with a straight, Ace high
DrTyore is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $89.75 | Rake $3
Board: [7s Td As Qs Jc]
Seat 1: PretenderTUW didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Moist Socket didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: mindyboston didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: HakanTurkey is sitting out
Seat 5: B MIK folded before the Flop
Seat 6: PokerDandy showed [Kh Ad] and won ($86.75) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 7: catch016 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: petridsh (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: DrTyore (big blind) showed [7d 7c] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Hand 4 - Even when I'm bluffing I'm ahead, and lose
This is just a bad beat / freaky hand.. and I'm kinda did and didn't overplay this one... Sklansky don't know s#it.
Villain will call with any piece of the board or any draw - pot odds be damned.
POKERSTARS GAME #8688380604: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/03/01 - 16:53:59 (ET)
Table 'Oileus' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: opokeme ($4.45 in chips)
Seat 2: DrTyore ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 3: j4ckd4ni3lz ($9.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Tokay1 ($15.25 in chips)
Seat 5: kmcmul3492 ($14.75 in chips)
Seat 6: madx ($17.95 in chips)
Seat 7: bobobdave ($25 in chips)
Seat 9: ritschi29 ($18.55 in chips)
DrTyore: posts small blind $0.10
j4ckd4ni3lz: posts big blind $0.25
ritschi29: posts small & big blinds $0.35
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrTyore [Qc As]
Tokay1: folds
kmcmul3492: calls $0.25
madx: calls $0.25
bobobdave: folds
ritschi29: checks
opokeme: folds
DrTyore: raises $1.75 to $2
j4ckd4ni3lz: folds
kmcmul3492: folds
madx: folds
ritschi29: calls $1.75
*** FLOP *** [Ts 8s 6d]
DrTyore: bets $4
ritschi29: calls $4
*** TURN *** [Ts 8s 6d] [2d]
DrTyore: bets $4
ritschi29: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [Ts 8s 6d 2d] [Jd]
DrTyore: bets $8.50
ritschi29: calls $8.45 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DrTyore: shows [Qc As] (high card Ace)
ritschi29: shows [Jc Qh] (a pair of Jacks)
klinczer joins the table at seat #8
ritschi29 collected $35.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $37.75 | Rake $1.80
Board [Ts 8s 6d 2d Jd]
Seat 1: opokeme (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DrTyore (small blind) showed [Qc As] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 3: j4ckd4ni3lz (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Tokay1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kmcmul3492 folded before Flop
Seat 6: madx folded before Flop
Seat 7: bobobdave folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ritschi29 showed [Jc Qh] and won ($35.95) with a pair of Jacks
Fuck.. I'm just so damned frustrated right now...
Mark
Comments
2. I'd play it the same against the guy you described assuming he's the type to raise not call with a lot of worse hands on the flop.
3. Run better (but well played).
4. I'd give up on the turn. If you're going to bet it should be all-in. The river bet is really bad you gotta give up, especially on that card.
Three words...OUT OF POSITION
Second hand:
You WANT this guy at all your tables! Tough one, but no fault
Third hand:
See hand two!
Fourth hand:
See hand two and three
The only really comment I can make is the first hand. Limping in was fine, but then calling another bet cold? Either raise or fold it here, you're in EP.
Sounds like you've been beating yourself up, but for the most part, it's just a bad run by the sounds of it. Go away for a spell, clear your head, and come back later.
Take a break dude
/g2
Go play some SNG's. mabye some heads up, that always makes me feel better.
Mark, Mark, Mark....
Whats your handle on Poker Stars .....
2. Not as ugly, but still pretty stinky. You married the AK.
3. Bad beat. Brutal
4. Another bad beat, but you had Ace high, and bet out the whole way. Slow down!
/g2
Hand 2: against the player that you described there i'm definately going to the felt. but against a usual (and i use that lightly) player i think you can get away on the turn when they lead out for $20. i mean another thing to consider is this guy risking half his stack when he hits any piece?
Hand 3: sick, i'm definately going broke there every time.
Hand 4: i'd prolly be shutting down on the turn, or if you think you have to bet the turn bet more than $4.
Second hand would help to know more about opponent since at lower limits AK will beat AQ AJ type hands as well as various draw hands a ton of times there for stacks. Your opponent played a low suited connector for a minimal raise preflop and got paid off 50-1 when he hit. Go figure, that's why some people play those hands some times (including myself). He played it fine, you played it ok for the most part. Welcome to poker.
Same thing third hand, you played it fine he played it fine. Top pair/top kicker vs sets suck for pair guy but redraws are possible. You played it fine he played it generally fine. Welcome to poker.
Hand four I cannot think of what your goal is on the river with that bet other then hoping he has nothing and you are thus preventing him from bluffing. Both of you kind of played that hand badly, he got a lucky river, it happens. Welcome to poker.
None of the hands posted really stand out in any way other then the last one where the play was in general bad by everyone.