What do you do?

riderrrriderrr
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I am BB my hole cards are K K I am chip leader in this tournament. UTG raises 200 the blinds are 25/50 I reraise to 400 he goes all in. I am almost certain he has aces. BTW he is right behind me in chips if I loose I am crippled. I folded did I make the right move? you decide. I ended up choking hard a loosing after a couple of bad plays and some overall bad play. Now looking back on it I am regretting my move. I am now thinking he had AK suited. But do you think I did the right thing?

Comments

  • HobbesHobbes
    I think your mistake was the min reraise.
    If I had JJ or higher and faced a min-reraise from a player I'd be tempted depending on the player to push all in.

    Barring a great read on the player, this was a bad fold.
  • westside8westside8
    riderrr wrote: »
    I am BB my hole cards are K K I am chip leader in this tournament. UTG raises 200 the blinds are 25/50 I reraise to 400 he goes all in. I am almost certain he has aces. BTW he is right behind me in chips if I loose I am crippled. I folded did I make the right move? you decide. I ended up choking hard a loosing after a couple of bad plays and some overall bad play. Now looking back on it I am regretting my move. I am now thinking he had AK suited. But do you think I did the right thing?

    What is your read on him? How has the table been playing? How many chips do you have? What kind of tournament is it?

    You left out a lot of information. How are you so certain that he has aces? Bad fold, quite possibly, but hard to say based on the amount of info you provided.
  • riderrrriderrr
    westside8 wrote: »
    What is your read on him? How has the table been playing? How many chips do you have? What kind of tournament is it?

    You left out a lot of information. How are you so certain that he has aces? Bad fold, quite possibly, but hard to say based on the amount of info you provided.
    Well he is a very tight player and rarely plays when he is early in position. Earlier in the night he raised with aces in the same position got a call from an AK the guy clearly lost. The guy raises with awesome hands calls with good folds with everything else. I was certain he had AK or AA and since I would have under 1000 left I didn't want to risk it. I thought it was a bad flop but I didn't feel like taking the risk.
  • joelwood87joelwood87
    As for whoever said your mistake was the "Min re-raise" if the guy did have Aces it wouldn't have mattered what your re-raise was, if he was gonna push all-in off that re-raise then he would have pushed all-in off any re-raise, so i don't think that was the problem. That is a very tough hand to lay-down, there's only one hand that could possibly beat you, considering he moved all-in after your re-raise and he's a tight player you automatically know he's got a huge hand. Personally i might have layed this down as well, considering your situation, if you are chip leader and you say this guy can cripple you, he's right up there maybe 2nd to 5th in the tourney, if you lay it down you're only losing 400 chips. However i just don't know if theres any way i could lay down KK pre-flop, this is one situation where you have to think to your self though "does this guy have the rockets". 99% of folks would not be laying this down. Did you ever find out what the guy actually had?
  • HobbesHobbes
    As for whoever said your mistake was the "Min re-raise" if the guy did have Aces it wouldn't have mattered what your re-raise was, if he was gonna push all-in off that re-raise then he would have pushed all-in off any re-raise, so i don't think that was the problem.

    That's why the min-reraise was bad.
    Bigger raise, then if he comes over the top you have a decision to make. But I really doubt that I am laying Kings down here.

    My point was, with the min-reraise there are a lot of hands that I'd be willing to come over the top with.

    BTW riderrr, how much of a lead did you have? 25/50 is only about the 3rd level in most S&G's.
    Still early and a good chance to double up.
  • AcidJoeAcidJoe
    Was it live or was it online? Still you said you'd have 1000 left with blinds of 25/50 that's still a good number of chips 20BB. If you had re raised more you'd have a better idea, after a min raise he might have pushed with jj or qq if he figured your min raise meant AK or AQ and he was willing to gambol a little.

    A bigger raise by you tells you something that he isn't afraid to go to war, your wimpy raise says your not.
  • riderrrriderrr
    It was online. A couple of hands earlier I thought I has a guy beat and he had a hand that came out of nowhere. I was paranoid and I decided to fold. I am so mad with my decision now. But whatever I still should of made money I just played like crap after that.
  • STR82ACESTR82ACE
    If you're going to fear AA every time you have KK preflop, you are never going to take a tournament.
  • povedawgpovedawg
    I think you should have called. Because pocket kings win more times than pocket aces. take 4 instance 2 weeks ago at superstars 3 in vegas Johnny Chan had Pocket Kings and Freddy Deeb had pocket aces and the flop came King, King, 7 , the turn card a 6 that gave chan the win.
    That is my opinion
    POVEDAWG
  • theshoptheshop
    povedawg wrote: »
    I think you should have called. Because pocket kings win more times than pocket aces. take 4 instance 2 weeks ago at superstars 3 in vegas Johnny Chan had Pocket Kings and Freddy Deeb had pocket aces and the flop came King, King, 7 , the turn card a 6 that gave chan the win.
    That is my opinion
    POVEDAWG

    Glad to see one of the most loyal players at The Shop is becoming an active forumer. We love seeing you at the club Dave, keep up the good work.
    :D
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