NL Cherry Popped!!! I'm no longer a NL virgin!!!

Big E

Did I bring this upon myself?

Hand 1882921192, Started at 2007-02-16 03:12:33
Table Funafuti: $0,25-$0,25 No Limit HE (Real)

Seat 0: niuniu88okk ($3,35 in chips)
Seat 1: TheGreatPole ($130,65 in chips)
Seat 2: aDaM- x ($31,65 in chips)
Seat 3: Donk.E ($21,45 in chips)
Seat 4: skullfrog ($23,70 in chips)
Seat 5: edpoker43 ($24,55 in chips)
Seat 6: huiyingds ($4 in chips)
Seat 7: playittig ($25,55 in chips) (on the button)
Seat 8: Gueli ($35,50 in chips)
Seat 9: superrodin ($15,50 in chips)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
Dealt to Donk.E: Qs
Dealt to Donk.E: Qd
Gueli : Post Blind ($0,15)
superrodin : Post Blind ($0,25)
huiyingds : Post Blind ($0,25)
*** Pre-Flop *** :
niuniu88okk : Fold
TheGreatPole : Call ($0,25)
aDaM- x : Call ($0,25)
Donk.E : Bet ($1)
skullfrog : Fold
edpoker43 : Fold
huiyingds : Fold
playittig : Fold
Gueli : Fold
superrodin : Fold
TheGreatPole : Call ($0,75) This guy has been a complete donkey calling station but must have had a horseshoe surgically implanted in his ass as he has sucked out on most occasions, I look forward to his call, I know he'll have complete garbage!
aDaM- x : Call ($0,75)
*** Flop *** : 2d 7c 10d
TheGreatPole : Bet ($2) bets half the pot, defensive bet I think, I don;t think he has anything
aDaM- x : Fold
Donk.E : Raise ($6) was this too small of a re-raise, I don't mind his action and want his chips but was it too small if he's on a flush draw, I feel I'm ahead right now
TheGreatPole : Call ($4) donkey sucker!
*** Turn *** : [ 2d 7c 10d ] 3h
TheGreatPole : Check
Donk.E : Bet ($14,45) A 3 shouldn't matter to anyone, was this a mistake, basically my all-in is a pot sized bet
Donk.E : All In ($14,45)
TheGreatPole : Call ($14,45) of course he calls, I have never seen him do anything but call?
*** River *** : [ 2d 7c 10d 3h ] 8c
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $44,05 | Rake: $0,50
Board: [ 2d 7c 10d 3h 8c ]
niuniu88okk lost $0
TheGreatPole bet $21,45, collected $44,05, net $22,60 Shows [ 3d 3c ] (three threes) Ok, I think this is pretty stinky, calling $0.75 pre-flop with 3's is debatable, I'd fold them right or wrong but on that flop with a pre-flop raiser re-raising you're gonna call another $4 with a pair of 3's?
aDaM- x lost $1
Donk.E lost $21,45 Shows [ Qd Qs ] (a pair of Queens)
skullfrog lost $0
edpoker43 lost $0
huiyingds lost $0,25
playittig lost $0
Gueli lost $0,15
superrodin lost $0,25

I question my play on the flop and turn, did I raise too little on the flop and should I have pushed the turn. Luckily I made most of this back

DrTyore

Just quick glances... tough hand.. but my thoughts

- I would definately call .75 preflop with 33, hit and you're gold.
- His bet on the flop was decent, it's not a friendly board for anyone really.
- You raised $6, meaning a $4 call for him into a pot that is now $12... yes.. he was behind and mathematically your raise is a good one, but I like to raise the pot *on top* of their bet, meaning that I'd have gone to $8, though I doubt this would have made a difference.

Mark

Zithal

I think the pre-flop bet is a little too small. With three limpers and the blinds, there's already $1.15 in the pot before you make your bet. You're bet to $1 is better thought of as a call of $0.25 and a raise of $0.75, which means the next person to call only needs to call $0.75 into a pot of $1.40. When you look at it from the results view, the 33 guy called $0.75 to win $20+.

If that first person calls, pretty much everyone else has to. I think you got lucky that you only got one caller. I'd raise it up to $1.50-$1.75 here.

After seeing the flop, I think his flop bet is a test to see if you have a large Ace. I like his $2 bet and your raise makes him call $4 to win $12. I think I'd probably bet out a pot-sized raised and $8 to go in this position.

His flop call is a mistake, but this is what makes low limit NL so profitable and why you should rarely bluff; most people believe that you're making a move on them. He called, likely thinking that you were making a move with AK-J and he hit a miracle card. Had no paint came he likely would have called to the river.

I'm trying to think of another way to possibly play the river, but with $16 in it and $15 left with an over pair to the board, I can't see a meaningful non-all-in bet that doesn't commit you to the pot.

ChrisWinsor

Ok call preflop, yucky call when you reraise... He's hoping for a miracle which comes only 10% of the time

DrTyore

10% provided you see BOTH of the next two cards.

Mark

Big E

Thanks, I knew my turn raise was a few bucks light and really I wanted to raise $6 more not total, I think when you click the 'raise' button with $6 in the window it should raise $6 over the current bet (for a total of $Eight) rather then $6 total but live and learn, now I know.

I agree with both of you Mark and Rob....I'm raising pre-flop a little more now...still pretty damn happy with the NL, my profit graph is climbing a lot quicker then limit!!!

Funny too, losing $3-4 bucks on a limit hand to some donkey can really set me off....getting stacked here really didn't bother me. I under bet, he made a bad call and got lucky, I made it back over the next half hour with a lesson learned

I think as long as you learn something in a loss it's easier to take?

I was second guessing myself on the turn push but really what else can I do, I don't want to give a free card, I have an overpair to the board to a calling station, my all-in is a pot sized bet, IMO he's calling with any piece of the board or any draw even...or so he has in the past? Unfortunately he hit, shit happens.

pokersnipe93

omg! your so good