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redstar

This one is for you guys out there! Although I made it to the final table of 80 players at our "town" game where we deal ourselves like a homegame, I ran into something I never run into when playing my usual LIMIT sit and goes and tournies in the past. Since no-limit needs a bit more thought when betting than limit tournies and calculations for betting are imore important, sometimes it takes me a while to count out my chips and get them over the line. For instance, I'll say "raise 300", 3 times the blind, and I'm stacking up the chips in front of me which was in most cases TOO slow for many of the guys who play online mostly and want SPEED. Anyways, I don't know if it's because I'm one of 4 women who play this men's tournie or not, but 3 times at 3 different tables the guys next to me start stacking and counting up my chips for me. They just reach over and grab them and start counting them. The 3rd time this happened (very young agressive guy) I realized this was a bit of a tell because I figured if the guy on the left of me was in such a hurry to get my chips in he must of thought had a pretty good hand so because I hadn't verbally announced how much I'd raise I did a minimum raise and sure enough as soon as my chips (that HE stacked) went into the pot, he reraised and did, in fact, have a pretty good hand that I beat regardless after the river. What are your views of this and can you think of any politically correct comments I could say to these guys if it happens next time becuase I hate them touching and grabbing my chip stack? Thanks all.

Hobbes

Tell them, if they want to touch your chips they need to win the pot.

BTW, any games that I have played in this is severely frowned upon and can result on a penalty.

DrTyore

How about

"get your [EMAIL="f#@kin"]f#@kin[/EMAIL] hands off my chips!"



It's poor form to touch another stack (though i'm guilty of it, but only when kicking in an ante / blind for another player who's away from the table or dealing).

Mark

ElElliott

That's just plain rude!

I'd simply say:

"Please don't touch my chips again."

If he doesn't get the message and does it again, I'd call over the tournament director and ask him to inform the player of proper table ettiquette.

JohnnieH

Always announce your raise verbally, "I bet/raise to $x". Then your can count out the chips, and your turn is over. It shouldn't take more than 15 seconds, but if you need a few extras seconds, then take them.

Another player should NEVER touch your chips without your permission. They're yours until they go into the middle.

For the first offence, I'd ask Mr. Grabby to keep to his hands to himself. Anything after that, call for the tournament director to make a ruling.

Johnnie

MidnightMike

I agree with Hobbes, the good Dr., Mrs E, and Johnie,

Be polite and firm and ask him to keep his hands on his own chips. I thought it was a rule that you cant touch another players chips?, or is that just a rounders flashback again.

Or,

look him in the eyes and say "if you touch my chips again, my hands will be all over yours!!!"

NegMike

STR82ACE

CUT THEM OFF NOW!!!!

Explain why after the bleeding stops

Apologize to him at the next tournament.

IM-ON-TILT

he needs to learn poker etiquette not to mention RESPECT!

BigChrisEl

Remember when someone annoys you it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown but, it only takes 4 muscles to reach over and BITCH-SLAP the MOFO

redstar

Thanks all for your suggestions. Since this was an informal tournie, I wasn't sure how to react and how BAD this type of behaviour was (touching other people's chips). Now I know it's not acceptable anywhere, whether at a casino or a homegame and I will certainly nip it in the bud if I have that happen to me again. To speed things up for calculating, how many chips do you stack in your piles or do you have a quick method for knowing exactly what you have in your chip stack to help speed up counting them?

STR82ACE

redstar wrote: »

To speed things up for calculating, how many chips do you stack in your piles or do you have a quick method for knowing exactly what you have in your chip stack to help speed up counting them?

Great question...I wouldn't have a clue though as I never seem to have more than 10 chips infront of me anyway

ElElliott

I think everyone has their own method for stacking/counting. Just figure out one that makes most sense to you. I like piles of 10 chips because they're easy to add up 10x5=50, 10x25=250, 10x100=1000 (etc) - then when you are asked to count off your chips, it's easy to count the stacks.

IM-ON-TILT

Also have the habit of having all your chips visible which is very important in the game to allow all the players see others chip count. This is a must at casinos and major tourneys.

BlondeFish

Many players go on tilt when there is a slow player at the table. They can't understand how another player can be so much slower than them at counting chips, or deciding whether to fold or call pre-flop. It is inappropriate to touch another person's chips without their permission. You can say something like one player said: "Touching my chips is like touching my balls!" (obviously male!) :biggrin:

With enough practice, you can become faster at counting chips, or in an all-in, you can choose to ask the current dealer or unofficial table warden to count for you. You can also be aware of which players are going on tilt against you for being too slow for them.

redstar wrote: »

Since no-limit needs a bit more thought when betting than limit tournies and calculations for betting are imore important, sometimes it takes me a while to count out my chips and get them over the line. For instance, I'll say "raise 300", 3 times the blind, and I'm stacking up the chips in front of me which was in most cases TOO slow for many of the guys who play online mostly and want SPEED.