High Stakes Poker Season 3

To all of those who saw the first episode. Just wondering what others thought about it...I thought it was a pretty good first episode, many of the regulars with a few new people. Jamie Gold, although he did win a couple of pots, he was definitely playing scared poker. I don't think he's ever ever played against that high calibre of a table, but who knows maybe he'll relax later on and play better. Matusow was playing very well, and I thought it was funny how he was sitting next to Gold. At first he seemed to be ragging on Gold a lot, but near the end he seemed to be becoming friends with him and giving him tips on how the players at the table react. He pulled off an amazing bluff with his A-K to David Alalei's (I think that's how you spell it) pocket eights, when the board was 2-5-7. He also pulled off a nice bluff with A-Q. I'm sure Matusow and Sheiky will get into it pretty good, as they preluded to at the end of the episode, but will Matusow be able to keep up the level of play with the distraction? Who knows. Negreanu was fairly quiet this time. One thing I didn't like was that they didn't tell you how much they buy-in for at the beginning. Who will be the big winner this year? Ivey? Matusow? Doyle? Negreanu?
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  • What time/ what channel is it on??
  • liquidfire wrote: »
    What time/ what channel is it on??
    It's on mondays at 9 on the Game network...Channel 287
  • Gold played really scared. I notice him just limp in with AQc and alot of wired pairs he would usually fold after the flop.
  • My favourite was when Gold said to Doyle of all people..."there's no shame in checking..." after a straight looking river card hit. Like he's going to manipulate this table into doing what he wants the way he did at the WSOP LOL. They seemed to imply that he takes a bit of a beating next episode. At least I HOPE he does.

    Anyways, for those who haven't seen all the first 2 seasons. Here's links to every episode. Also, if you go to the home site of this link, there's every poker video and clip you could ever want, WSOP, WPT, HSP, etc...old and new.

    Here's the links

    HSP S1 E 1-8:


    http://hspoker.blogspot.com/


    HSP S1 E 9-13:


    http://hspseasononeb.blogspot.com/


    HSP S2E 1-10:


    http://hsptwo.blogspot.com/


    HSP S2E 11-16:


    http://hsptwob.blogspot.com/

    I didn't hyper link them so just copy and paste into your browser.

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  • I found Season 3 Ep:1 by searching on youtube (what a blessing for us ppl who don't have cable or satellite)the only catch is that when u watch it, everything is out of sync, so the announcers say what moves ppl make b4 they do it and announce the turn b4 it comes, so it really takes away from the suspense, maybe its my PC, but probably not cuz there was a comment about that in one of the parts (all 5 are easy to find) I'm still super pumped for episode 2!
  • Here's episode one, season three. No sync problems on it, so if it has some, it may be your PC. This is from the same site I posted earlier. I'll post the home link also.

    HSP Season 3 EP 01

    http://hspseason3.blogspot.com/

    home page

    http://youtubepoker.blogspot.com/

    Enjoy.

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  • I think Jamie Gold is in waaaaayyyyy over his head. Sure he has $6 million to back him, but he can't play at that level, nowhere even close. The hand he limped in with AQ clubs was evident of that. He had a very good starting hand, and position, and he chose to limp.
  • I just saw a rerun of this weeks' show. Yeah, Gold looked out of his comfort zone. (or he just tries to trap, trap, trap all the time) Couldn't figure out Victor Ramdin - he seemed to be playing scared, and yet called a raise in the dark from his blind.

    Was hoping for more pots between Matusow and Sheiky.

    I would have liked to have seen the fireworks had Negreanu stayed in that hand where he would have flopped a straight, and Mike pushed on the flop with AK.

    Can't wait to see Ivey play.
  • ty for the linx! I love how Jamie Gold went after Doyle when Doyle had the straight, "theres no harm in checking", lol he was schooled that whole episode, I believe he has the mentality that "when he has a premium hand, let the pros do the betting and you sit back and extract as much as possible when you hit", the flaw in that plan is that the pros are 2 steps ahead of him, and they can change gears and play the defensive role well when they sense danger.
  • first off, there is a surprisingly good quality mp4 version of this on thepiratebay.org. downloads in about 5 minutes flat

    i didn't think gold played terribly. i'll have to watch again to be certain but it seemed whenever he hit a big hand, no one else had anything. he was limping and calling rather than raising but given the competition, i can't fault his early play
  • I was surprised how bad Gabe Kaplin played. Did he not win a braclet at limit one year or at least come close to it?

    You guys think he looked like a donk or was well aware of his table image and took full advantage of it?
  • I would have to watch again but my feel is that Gold sucked. (My opinion may be biased as I think his is an ass).

    He showed hardly any aggression at all. Check, call, check, call.

    Calling station = dead money in that game.

    Oh w8, he ponied up and bet the pot when he had AA. I correct myself, he is a solid player!



    Gabe Kaplin is a good player. He played the Yokel role very well and talked the "Mouth" into folding top pair into a 1/3 pot river bet. He would probably get destroyed in this game over the long haul but he is nobody's "donk."


    Caddy


    PS - I love this show!
  • I must be missing something. Does Gabe Kaplan (the announcer, a.k.a. Mr. Kotter) play in the game or is there another player named Gabe Kaplin?
  • morty wrote: »
    I must be missing something. Does Gabe Kaplan (the announcer, a.k.a. Mr. Kotter) play in the game or is there another player named Gabe Kaplin?

    LOL...No, It's the OTHER Gabe Kaplan
  • Yeah, Kaplan is playing for a couple episodes, while Negrenau does the commentating. I agree, great show.
  • I loved when Doyle got Aces back-to-back. Sweet.
  • JohnnieH wrote: »
    I loved when Doyle got Aces back-to-back. Sweet.

    Rigged obv.
  • funkymunky wrote: »
    I just saw a rerun of this weeks' show. Yeah, Gold looked out of his comfort zone. (or he just tries to trap, trap, trap all the time) Couldn't figure out Victor Ramdin - he seemed to be playing scared, and yet called a raise in the dark from his blind.

    Was hoping for more pots between Matusow and Sheiky.

    I would have liked to have seen the fireworks had Negreanu stayed in that hand where he would have flopped a straight, and Mike pushed on the flop with AK.

    Can't wait to see Ivey play.
    Idon't think Matusow would have played it the same way had Negreanu been in the hand.... He knows Negreanu will play low suited cards andprobably would have figured that he hit that. ButIalso can't wait to see Ivey play, definitely my favourite player, and possibly the best poker player out there. That's rightHellmuth, you're not the greatest!lol....
  • Can someone post these episodes online somewhere? I watched the first two seasons off of YouTube.
  • See below...but i see I have to have at least 10 characters, so NOW see below.
  • Sammy wrote: »
    Can someone post these episodes online somewhere? I watched the first two seasons off of YouTube.

    The link I posted earlier in this thread has season 3 on it also. On the right side, scroll down the menu's till you see HSP. There's season 1, 2 and what's been aired of 3. But it's all from youtube, not a .WMV or anything.

    Here it is again http://youtubepoker.blogspot.com/


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  • thanks man, much appreciated.
  • Gold looked bad tonight. Did anyone watch the 8:00 season 2 rerun? I'm wondering why Farha agreed to run it twice against Matusow when he had AA against 10 10, was there more money put up by the Mouth that the commentators didn't mention?

    Cheers.
  • With the three back-to-back episodes tonight, I finally ordered the GSN channel from my cable company.

    Running it twice means the splitting the pot into two pots and run the remaining board for one pot, and then a second board (e.g., river) for the other pot. The purpose is to reduce variance or risk, especially if the pot is big enough that losing it would be too painful. For example, instead of Farha losing a $200K pot because of Matusow getting the 20% chance of sucking out, he still has a great chance of splitting the pot by having another board. The expected value remains the same.

    When Negreanu flopped the second nuts, he declined Farha's offer of running it twice, who had a flush draw. Unfortunately for Negreanu, his horrible luck continued on HSP and doubled up Farha.

    It's scary to see how variance can be so cruel to a great player like Negreanu who seems to have lost a big chunk of his bankroll on HSP. Almost any other player would have gone broke by now.
    Whitehorse wrote: »
    Did anyone watch the 8:00 season 2 rerun? I'm wondering why Farha agreed to run it twice against Matusow when he had AA against 10 10, was there more money put up by the Mouth that the
    commentators didn't mention?
  • Right. I understand the concept. Usually they run it twice for an overpair against a strong draw. But to run it twice when you're a 5 to 1 favourite?..Seems like scared poker to me....I guess I'm missing something here..
  • If your whole bankroll ends up in a pot, you would gladly run it twice rather than risk ruin. For example, if you are all-in with A-A against 10-10 with the pot totalling $1 million, your EV is +$600,000 but there is a 20% chance that you will go bankrupt. By running it twice, the following will be the main outcomes:

    1) 64% chance that you will win the board twice and win the $1 million.
    2) only 4% chance that you will lose twice, and lose $1 million.
    3) 32% chance that the two players will each win once, and the pot will be split.

    While the EV remains the same, your risk of ruin is five times less likely by running it twice. For big gamblers like Farha and Matusow, bankruptcy may not be at stake but running it twice is just another fun bet. Gambling addicts love any kind of proposition bets, straddling (even though it's -EV), and "stacking off" in which they agree to put their whole stack in BLIND while the other players pre-agree to fold.

    Next time I am in a big all-in pot at a cash game, I will propose running it twice - just to confuse everybody at the table! >:D
    Whitehorse wrote: »
    But to run it twice when you're a 5 to 1 favourite?..Seems like scared poker to me....I guess I'm missing something here..
  • Thanks for the explanation Buddy. I've often wondered how beneficial running it twice actually is.

    How much more does the "risk of ruin" diminish when running it three times (which I've seen many times on LA Poker Scene).
  • Thanks. Good explanation.
  • In the overpair vs. underpair case (80% vs 20%), the risk of ruin would become less than 1% (20% * 20% * 20% = 0.8%). For example, if ElElliott and I have bet the farm in a $300,000 pot :wink: and agree to run it three times with me having the overpair, the pot would be split into 3 $100,000 side pots. There would be 8 main outcomes: WWW, LLL, WWL, WLW, WLL, LWW, LWL, LLW.

    - There would be a 51.2% chance that I would win all three runs and win the whole $300,000 pot.
    - There would be a 0.8% chance that I would lose all three runs and ElElliott would win the whole $300,000 pot.
    - For 3 of the 8 outcomes, I would win two of the $100,000 pots and lose one $100,000 pot. My EV = (80% * 80% * 20%) * 3 * +$100K = +$38,400.
    - For the remaining 3 outcomes, I would lose two of the $100,000 pots and win one $100,000 pot. My EV = (20% * 20% * 80%) * 3 * -$100K = -$9,600.

    While the EV remains the same ($300K * 60% = $180K), I have greatly reduced my risk of ruin from 20% to 0.8% by running it three times. Monday night's High Stakes Poker was the first time I have ever seen "running it twice," but now that I have figured it out, I can't wait to incorporate it into my cash game strategies tomorrow!
    ElElliott wrote: »
    How much more does the "risk of ruin" diminish when running it three times (which I've seen many times on LA Poker Scene).
  • Re: Running it twice....

    Before you go adding it to your cash game strategies, I know of no regular casino poker room that allows it..... I know it has come up at the tables before at both Seneca and Niagara, both rooms say no to it... Not sure about the Vegas scene. I would guess it would only be allowed in the private high stakes games.. However your mileage may vary.. Ask first..
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