Cash Game insight plz

Bobsi38127Bobsi38127
in General Poker Chat
Just so ppl stop wonderin who I am, I've been playing Poker for 3 years and I'm from the Windsor Area, I've been playing avidly at the local Casino and I play home games w/my buddies $.50/$1.00 NL $40-$50 Max games its a pretty juicy game sumtimes.My question is this:
When I play cashgames I get the traditional starts either: chipped away than a triple up. Another start is taking just enough to cover a round of blinds then winning a 50% of my buyin pot, then a double up on that which puts me at a nice stack. Then it happens, I end up dropping a 1-2 major pots due to a misled instinct where I underestimate an erratic player's hand. After that I drop another piece covering a desperate short stack leeching off me. A typical crappy coinflip where mr Kojack beats my wired 8s! Then I'm left with car ride home and a bullshit (best word to discribe the scenario) story to post. I understand my follies here and there, but this commonly happens at my friend's home games. These are usually 5-6 handed so losing 1 person with a majority of the pot breaks the game, cuz theres nothing left for anyone to gun for. Any tips for this scenario? Preferably something past the obvious

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  • cadillaccadillac
    Is this a rhetorical question?
  • g2g2
    Bobsi38127 wrote: »
    Just so ppl stop wonderin who I am
    First off, thank you for putting my mind at rest ;)
    Bobsi38127 wrote: »
    Any tips for this scenario? Preferably something past the obvious
    I'm confused... what is the obvious? Is it that you need more players than 5-6 handed... or is it that if it's a profitable, but volatile game, bring more than one buy-in? Oh wait... $50 max $.5/$1 yeah definitely bring a few extra buyins. Or maybe convince them to play $0.05/$0.10.

    /g2
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    g2 wrote: »
    First off, thank you for putting my mind at rest ;)


    I'm confused... what is the obvious? Is it that you need more players than 5-6 handed... or is it that if it's a profitable, but volatile game, bring more than one buy-in? Oh wait... $50 max $.5/$1 yeah definitely bring a few extra buyins. Or maybe convince them to play $0.05/$0.10.

    /g2
    I'm also kinda glad he saved me from wondering any longer who he is....

    And what do you mean play $.05/$0.10? That sure wouldn't help at any typical Ktch/Wloo game, oh $0.10 blind, ahhh, make it $10. to go.... lol... Maybe his games are similar to ours, bets have no relationship to blinds.... :)
  • g2g2
    compuease wrote: »
    I'm also kinda glad he saved me from wondering any longer who he is....

    And what do you mean play $.05/$0.10? That sure wouldn't help at any typical Ktch/Wloo game, oh $0.10 blind, ahhh, make it $10. to go.... lol... Maybe his games are similar to ours, bets have no relationship to blinds.... :)
    You missed a couple Bristols ago... actually I think we've played it twice now at Bristol.

    And it's usually only opened at $1.25 :D

    /g2
  • ScoobyDScoobyD
    Oh wait... $50 max $.5/$1 yeah definitely bring a few extra buyins. Or maybe convince them to play $0.05/$0.10.

    Yup. You're not playing deepstack NL. The bulk of your decisions are going to be made preflop and flop. Adjust your game accordingly, and ride out the variance...
  • HobbesHobbes
    Bobsi38127 wrote: »
    Just so ppl stop wonderin who I am, I've been playing Poker for 3 years and I'm from the Windsor Area, I've been playing avidly at the local Casino and I play home games w/my buddies $.50/$1.00 NL $40-$50 Max games its a pretty juicy game sumtimes.

    There's your first problem. If the buyin is $50 then you need to play .25/.50.
    These are usually 5-6 handed so losing 1 person with a majority of the pot breaks the game, cuz theres nothing left for anyone to gun for. Any tips for this scenario? Preferably something past the obvious

    Not sure what you mean this?!? Are you playing 5-6 handed on the flop (if that's so, I want to know where this game is....:) ) or are you playing a short handed game?
  • cadillaccadillac
    Hobbes wrote: »
    There's your first problem. If the buyin is $50 then you need to play .25/.50.

    Yes and No. Ideally you want your max buy-in to be 100 BB's but look at the casinos....all the 1-2 NL is 100 max or 50BB
  • Bobsi38127Bobsi38127
    Sorry I wasn't a bit clearer, lol what I mean by the obvious is the same advice that is said over and over again, the kind you can just cut and paste over and over again as a response to anyone asking for insight. For instance the typical "play tight, raise on good cards, fold bad cards", you know that this advice IS right, but really just doesn't explain what the playing problems really are, or how it can relate to the scenarioI just thought maybe you guys got some good tidbits to help with clinch scenarios, or how to manage the big stack a little more effectively in cash games the stuff that books can't really help with, more or less hands on advice. The problems about our home games are: we get a few ppl to come out, they buyin for $20 and put no heart into the game, basically pulling the "they know their behind and call anyway just to lose" card or the calling stations bring one buyin, buyin for $40 and either stay until the cows come home or keep staying alive with selective desperation bet when they get under $6.50 or so and then get pissed and leave if they lose, so keeping the action going can be a bitch when this happns. (To answer any MORE speculation, it RARELY and I mean RARELY gets 9-10 handed so our game is generally shorthanded). Think about it from the other player's mind say the pot is $300 and your buddy has 80-100 in front of him and takes off, thats a solid third of a pot if the action stays goin so b/t 3-4 ppl $200 is just not profitable, especially if he's the bastard winning crucial pots against you, and you need that to grind to even. At the casino when one goes another comes so the pot isn't jeprodized, so more thoroughly question c)how can you entice fish to stay longer, or even to keep coming back even if they DO end up having a hot or cold night? What I do like about the games we play is u can satellite urself quickly to get back into the casino/online loop when the bankroll's a sufferin'. Am I clearer now?
  • g2g2
    Bobsi38127 wrote: »
    Am I clearer now?
    As mud

    /g2
  • freeroll freakfreeroll freak
    what did he say ..??

    umm... i guess its a good thing we play with plastic chips...
  • Bobsi38127Bobsi38127
    lol, Clay chips are good to play with too, but not if their too heavy tho.
  • ReefAquariumReefAquarium
    Bobsi38127 wrote: »
    Sorry I wasn't a bit clearer, lol what I mean by the obvious is the same advice that is said over and over again, the kind you can just cut and paste over and over again as a response to anyone asking for insight. For instance the typical "play tight, raise on good cards, fold bad cards", you know that this advice IS right, but really just doesn't explain what the playing problems really are, or how it can relate to the scenarioI just thought maybe you guys got some good tidbits to help with clinch scenarios, or how to manage the big stack a little more effectively in cash games the stuff that books can't really help with, more or less hands on advice. The problems about our home games are: we get a few ppl to come out, they buyin for $20 and put no heart into the game, basically pulling the "they know their behind and call anyway just to lose" card or the calling stations bring one buyin, buyin for $40 and either stay until the cows come home or keep staying alive with selective desperation bet when they get under $6.50 or so and then get pissed and leave if they lose, so keeping the action going can be a bitch when this happns. (To answer any MORE speculation, it RARELY and I mean RARELY gets 9-10 handed so our game is generally shorthanded). Think about it from the other player's mind say the pot is $300 and your buddy has 80-100 in front of him and takes off, thats a solid third of a pot if the action stays goin so b/t 3-4 ppl $200 is just not profitable, especially if he's the bastard winning crucial pots against you, and you need that to grind to even. At the casino when one goes another comes so the pot isn't jeprodized, so more thoroughly question c)how can you entice fish to stay longer, or even to keep coming back even if they DO end up having a hot or cold night? What I do like about the games we play is u can satellite urself quickly to get back into the casino/online loop when the bankroll's a sufferin'. Am I clearer now?

    Try using paragraphs?
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