At the WPT tournament, a player was betting aggressively but got called down to the river and lost. I was surprised that none of the table sharks wanted to see the bettor's cards, so I asked the dealer if it was OK to see his cards. The bettor had garbage and was on a stone cold bluff even before the flop! That player had been one of the most aggressiver bettors and had probably been bluffing most of that time. The same bettor later went all-in on another bluff, but thanks to the information I had gained for the table, another player that would have folded his mid pocket pair against any other all-in player, decided to call and eliminate the stone cold bluffer.
I'm surprised how few players care about seeing the other opponent's cards and getting free but valuable information. This happens a lot at the casinos I have played at, which doesn't use the following rule:
All hands will be turned faceup whenever a player is all-in and betting action is complete.
I was playing last night when an unusual situation occurred when one player asked to see another player’s cards at the end of the hand. I think I know the rules regarding it but just want some opinions.
Player A limped, player B raised 3.5xBB, player C called, player D called, the BB called, and then player A called.
Flop comes and it is checked all around.
Turn comes and it gets checked to Player B who bets, Player C calls, Player D folds, the BB folds, and player A calls.
On the river every one checks.
Player A has nothing, Player B has two pair, Player C says he’s beat. Player B asks to see Player C’s cards.
At Fallsview, anyone dealt into the hand has a right to request to see cards at showdown.
**WARNING** Some casinos have a rule that if anyone other than the winner of the pot, asks to see the cards, the hand is killed (by tapping it on the muck) and then revealed. However, if the winner of the hand asks to see a losing/conceeding player's hand, those cards are STILL LIVE and if they beat the winner's hand, they will be awarded the pot!!
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I'm surprised how few players care about seeing the other opponent's cards and getting free but valuable information. This happens a lot at the casinos I have played at, which doesn't use the following rule:
All hands will be turned faceup whenever a player is all-in and betting action is complete.
Player A limped, player B raised 3.5xBB, player C called, player D called, the BB called, and then player A called.
Flop comes and it is checked all around.
Turn comes and it gets checked to Player B who bets, Player C calls, Player D folds, the BB folds, and player A calls.
On the river every one checks.
Player A has nothing, Player B has two pair, Player C says he’s beat. Player B asks to see Player C’s cards.
Does Player C have to show?
Ya but he relinquished the pot. If he mucks his hand, I don't think people should be digging through to find his cards.
On another note, why is player B asking to see the hand of a guy who's clearly relinquished the pot...
**WARNING** Some casinos have a rule that if anyone other than the winner of the pot, asks to see the cards, the hand is killed (by tapping it on the muck) and then revealed. However, if the winner of the hand asks to see a losing/conceeding player's hand, those cards are STILL LIVE and if they beat the winner's hand, they will be awarded the pot!!
Information...to see what hand was playable (to the player) to call a raise pre-flop and then a bet on the turn.
I have always thought that a player mucking his hand as a way for a player to “save face”.
If a player B asked and then player C refuses what then?
What if player C attempts to throw his hand in the hand but it does hit it?