When to take a free card?
Hey All,
Well I have been posting a lot of hands lately and the reason is I seem to be in a bit of a bad streak so I wanted to keep running these hands by you all to get your feedback and make sure I am making the right moves..
I wanted to run this one by you and get your thoughts on taking a free card. When is the right time to check when your opponent has checked to you... I think I screwed up here and should of made a move.
By the way the flushes have been killing me...
PokerStars Game #6850909903: Tournament #34915270, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/11/01 - 08:06:14 (ET)
Table '34915270 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: shmi1 (3410 in chips)
Seat 2: sally57 (4114 in chips)
Seat 3: byha (596 in chips)
Seat 4: norm420 (3000 in chips)
Seat 5: korn999 (6155 in chips)
Seat 6: w4ldo (2115 in chips)
Seat 7: Rustman33 (360 in chips)
Seat 8: surfin stud (5653 in chips)
Seat 9: PaulBl (1597 in chips) is sitting out
shmi1: posts the ante 25
sally57: posts the ante 25
byha: posts the ante 25
norm420: posts the ante 25
korn999: posts the ante 25
w4ldo: posts the ante 25
Rustman33: posts the ante 25
surfin stud: posts the ante 25
PaulBl: posts the ante 25
PaulBl: posts small blind 200
shmi1: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to korn999 [Js Ad]
sally57: folds
byha: folds
norm420: folds
korn999: raises 800 to 1200
w4ldo: folds
Rustman33: folds
surfin stud: folds
PaulBl: folds
shmi1: calls 800
*** FLOP *** [5s 6h 9d]
shmi1: checks
korn999: checks
*** TURN *** [5s 6h 9d] [Jd]
shmi1: bets 800
korn999: raises 4130 to 4930 and is all-in
shmi1: calls 1385 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [5s 6h 9d Jd] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shmi1: shows [8d Td] (a flush, Jack high)
korn999: shows [Js Ad] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
shmi1 collected 7195 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7195 | Rake 0
Board [5s 6h 9d Jd 5d]
Seat 1: shmi1 (big blind) showed [8d Td] and won (7195) with a flush, Jack high
Seat 2: sally57 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: byha folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: norm420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: korn999 showed [Js Ad] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Fives
Seat 6: w4ldo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Rustman33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: surfin stud (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: PaulBl (small blind) folded before Flop
Well I have been posting a lot of hands lately and the reason is I seem to be in a bit of a bad streak so I wanted to keep running these hands by you all to get your feedback and make sure I am making the right moves..
I wanted to run this one by you and get your thoughts on taking a free card. When is the right time to check when your opponent has checked to you... I think I screwed up here and should of made a move.
By the way the flushes have been killing me...
PokerStars Game #6850909903: Tournament #34915270, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/11/01 - 08:06:14 (ET)
Table '34915270 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: shmi1 (3410 in chips)
Seat 2: sally57 (4114 in chips)
Seat 3: byha (596 in chips)
Seat 4: norm420 (3000 in chips)
Seat 5: korn999 (6155 in chips)
Seat 6: w4ldo (2115 in chips)
Seat 7: Rustman33 (360 in chips)
Seat 8: surfin stud (5653 in chips)
Seat 9: PaulBl (1597 in chips) is sitting out
shmi1: posts the ante 25
sally57: posts the ante 25
byha: posts the ante 25
norm420: posts the ante 25
korn999: posts the ante 25
w4ldo: posts the ante 25
Rustman33: posts the ante 25
surfin stud: posts the ante 25
PaulBl: posts the ante 25
PaulBl: posts small blind 200
shmi1: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to korn999 [Js Ad]
sally57: folds
byha: folds
norm420: folds
korn999: raises 800 to 1200
w4ldo: folds
Rustman33: folds
surfin stud: folds
PaulBl: folds
shmi1: calls 800
*** FLOP *** [5s 6h 9d]
shmi1: checks
korn999: checks
*** TURN *** [5s 6h 9d] [Jd]
shmi1: bets 800
korn999: raises 4130 to 4930 and is all-in
shmi1: calls 1385 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [5s 6h 9d Jd] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shmi1: shows [8d Td] (a flush, Jack high)
korn999: shows [Js Ad] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
shmi1 collected 7195 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7195 | Rake 0
Board [5s 6h 9d Jd 5d]
Seat 1: shmi1 (big blind) showed [8d Td] and won (7195) with a flush, Jack high
Seat 2: sally57 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: byha folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: norm420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: korn999 showed [Js Ad] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Fives
Seat 6: w4ldo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Rustman33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: surfin stud (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: PaulBl (small blind) folded before Flop
Comments
I don't think you played this badly.
Pre-flop:
YOU: Decent hand, 3x BB raise from MP isn't bad, I like it.
Villain: M is 4-5, flat calling is a bad idead - push or fold IMO
8-10 suited? Well, this may be "It's my lucky hand" mentality
Flop: Oh the mighty 7-8
You: Checked to you, and you check as well with A-high. Would I have bet? Maybe, would your bet (say pot-sized) have gotten rid of villain? Well, again, he's put in 1400 / 3400 already - about 35% of his stack, he should be pushing
Villain: Should have pushed.
Turn: Gives you top pair on a two suited board
You: Re-raise a weak bet - 800 into a pot of about 3000, and put him all in - good move IMO, unless you feel he has a set or was slow-playing and is now protecting against the flush - but 800 is not a big bet, and I would doubt it. Any reads on the player would come into play here.
Villain: He has 1400 left and the pot is now about 6k... he's getting great odds considering he has an open-ended straight draw and a flush draw and should call, as he does.
You: Re-raise a weak bet (800 into a pot of
River: Sucks for you
So, on a tally sheet, it looks like the villain made 2 big errors and you made no obvious errors. I don't hate the check, but there may be something to be said for putting him all in on the flop.
Here's a question, he goes all-in pre-flop do you call? Barring any reads and such, I probably would have, and lost all my money there too.
Mark
You showed strength preflop so I like to bet about 3/4 of the pot here representing an overpair (or a set).
If he had the 78 or flopped a small set I'd expect a raise (if he was aggressive).
I agree with Mark, on the turn the villian is getting great odds for a call and RiverStars lives up to it's name.