Nuttiest Hand Ever
$20 + $2 SNG on Party
Blinds are $100 & $200
8 remain at the table.
I am in the BB with 9s 9c and $2900T
Button has about $4500T
Button has minraised my BB 3 out of the last 5 circuits and folded twice to a reraise. The other time I called his raise and then check/folded a scarey flop. (Why won't this guy leave my blind alone?)
Action:
Folds to Button who (guess this one) min raises and makes it $400 to go.
SB Folds
I figure he may be getting sick of my reraises and could push on me if I reraise here. In that case I will probably be ahead but be a coin flip at best. I don't want to play 9-9 for my stack so I call. FEEL FREE TO COMMENT ON THIS PLAY.
FLOP:
9h Ac 9d
My concern is that if I bet with the Ac on board and he doesn't have one he will fold. So I check and hope he will take a stab at the pot or catch up on fourth street. Villian Checks.
TURN:
9h Ac 9d (Ah)
I take my time and then bet half the pot $450. Villian insta calls.
RIVER:
9h Ac 9d Ah (As)
WOW! All of a sudden I don't like my quad 9s so much. Ax is definately in the group of hands he could be playing. I have $2000 left and am not comfy playing this for all of my chips so I check.
Villian bets $450.
The size of the bet smells like a suck bet and I think I should fold here. But I go back throught the hand. Why did he not bet the Flop? Why no re-raise on the turn and just a smooth call. Definately a strange way to play top pair. Maybe he is betting a pair and thinks it is good.
With almost 5-1 odds I decide I can afford to call here and find out if 4 nines are any good.
There are some smart players on this board. I would love to hear some input on this hand.
Any flaws in my thought process?
What would you do differently?
Is this the goofiest hand ever?
Blinds are $100 & $200
8 remain at the table.
I am in the BB with 9s 9c and $2900T
Button has about $4500T
Button has minraised my BB 3 out of the last 5 circuits and folded twice to a reraise. The other time I called his raise and then check/folded a scarey flop. (Why won't this guy leave my blind alone?)
Action:
Folds to Button who (guess this one) min raises and makes it $400 to go.
SB Folds
I figure he may be getting sick of my reraises and could push on me if I reraise here. In that case I will probably be ahead but be a coin flip at best. I don't want to play 9-9 for my stack so I call. FEEL FREE TO COMMENT ON THIS PLAY.
FLOP:
9h Ac 9d
My concern is that if I bet with the Ac on board and he doesn't have one he will fold. So I check and hope he will take a stab at the pot or catch up on fourth street. Villian Checks.
TURN:
9h Ac 9d (Ah)
I take my time and then bet half the pot $450. Villian insta calls.
RIVER:
9h Ac 9d Ah (As)
WOW! All of a sudden I don't like my quad 9s so much. Ax is definately in the group of hands he could be playing. I have $2000 left and am not comfy playing this for all of my chips so I check.
Villian bets $450.
The size of the bet smells like a suck bet and I think I should fold here. But I go back throught the hand. Why did he not bet the Flop? Why no re-raise on the turn and just a smooth call. Definately a strange way to play top pair. Maybe he is betting a pair and thinks it is good.
With almost 5-1 odds I decide I can afford to call here and find out if 4 nines are any good.
There are some smart players on this board. I would love to hear some input on this hand.
Any flaws in my thought process?
What would you do differently?
Is this the goofiest hand ever?
Comments
Insta push.
I can't think of a reason to bet the flop when I have hit quads here. With the comination of the pair and the Ace on board. The only way I can make money is if he has an Ace and is in love with top pair or if for some reason he believes that the flop has missed me entirely and he has a pocket pair.
What information could I possibly need from him at this point? My only goal here is to get some more of his chips in the middle! After flopping quads I don't forsee any difficult decisions in this hand. The runner, runner Aces while crazy are not something that you should protect your hand against IMHO.
I agree wholeheartedly with you here. The range that I put him on was even broader though Ax, KK-22. He had the button in an unraised pot here.
Why couldn't he have quads? LOL. You just included Ax in your range of hands!
And yes!! I have to call here.
Thanks for your input K
Caddy
Your opponent can't see your cards.
Play your monster flop the same way you'd play the hand any other hand. What does that mean? Do you overuse continuation bets? Then do it again, do you always check flops? Check call? check raise? Keep doing it. He may fold to you this time, but you'll set up a better opportunity down the road. Just remember how you played it and his reaction. Then use it against him.
The second part of your post is excellent and I couldn't agree with it more. Be yourself and your opponent won't spot anything fishy and always watch your opponents betting patterns so you can use them to your advantage.
I am not sure what you mean by the first part.
I am pretty sure that my opponent can't see my cards however I have heard that online poker is rigged. <---please note sarcasm here.
I don't see a difficult decison in front of me here becase 99.9% of the time when you flop quads you are taking down the pot no matter what the turn and river bring. Your concern becomes how do I get his chips in the middle.
Please explain your point here. I guess I am dense because I don't get it.
Thanks,
Caddy
I mean that when you flop a monster hand, your opponent doesn't know that. I see a lot of posts in these situations where people are so scared of villian folding that they give away massive tells about what they really do hold. People suddenly play a hand as if both cards were face up.
OK fair point but not really specific to this post. Unless you think that checking the flop and then leading a half-pot bet on the turn is a massive tell in this situation (before you ask - I don't). Remember as well that he showed strength pre-flop, not me.
Great input on this thread guys thank you!
FYI - I called his bet on the river and he showed KK.
Just about every reply put him on KK-TT. You are sick bunch!
Cheers,
Caddy
If this were a ring game, I can maybe understand the call. But with the blinds getting up there in a SNG and the Villian apparently liking his hand a lot, I'm probably pushing. The call is likely if he thinks you're just playing the full house on the board. If I lose a $20 SNG to quads over quads, so be it, but the call is passive.
I agree that most would play it with a push here and that type of play does simplifiy things (Push or fold poker does seem to be the standard play online anymore). I am just not afraid to take flops before making decisions for all of my chips.
A few other points of clarification:
For those who don't play there, Party SNG's start with $2000T and there are 8 remaining here so avg stack is $2500. I am an above average stack at this time.
Villian has $4500T, almost 1/4 of the chips in play so he is the big stack and he can bust me.
My M is just shy of 10 so I am not in dire straights.
Why pick a fight with the big stack when I have a medium pair here? I am a coinflip at best if he calls me.
In hindsight he held KK and I am more than a 5-1 dog here before the flop with my life on the line.
A call here does give me options:
I can do a stop-and-go on a favourable board after the flop.
Let the hand go on a flop that is full of paint.
Maybe even take it down with a C-bet after the flop. I could bet $500 at the pot after the flop and still have over $2000T in my stack if I decide to let it go.
My thoughts anyway.
Cheers,
Caddy