Is A,K the worst played hand in holdem?

Just wondering if I'm immagining things or is A,K really the worst played hand in holdem.
I've seen a lot of overplaying of a,K. People seem to think that because they were ahead or in a race preflop that they are ahead no matter what the flop is. After all A,Ko is about a 3:1 dog after an all low rainbow flop against any mid to high pocket pair. But still I see people making bets that will net them 2:1 even after a pot sized bet made it obvious that the opponent had a mid to high pocket pair.
I won't go into all of the situations I've seen but I even saw one guy limp in with A,K in early possition. Let's face it slow playing A,A can be risky. Slow playing A,K in early possition is bordering on insane.

Comments

  • AK=Anna Kournikova

    Looks good but never wins. :'(
  • JohnnieH wrote:
    AK=Anna Kournikova

    Looks good but never wins. :'(

    And they both make us want to push All-in!
  • TNORTH wrote:
    JohnnieH wrote:
    AK=Anna Kournikova

    Looks good but never wins. :'(

    And they both make us want to push All-in!

    and bust out a minute later...
  • Wolffhound wrote:
    TNORTH wrote:
    JohnnieH wrote:
    AK=Anna Kournikova

    Looks good but never wins. :'(

    And they both make us want to push All-in!

    and bust out a minute later...

    It is easy to blow your entire load with something that looks so good in your hand...
  • au contraire mes freres! AK in the right situation can be huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge.

    perhaps it is poorly played in the wrong hands but it is one of my favourite hands to have. very easily played in certain situations.

    as for limping with AK in EP? meh. doesn't seem like a big problem to me given the right circumstances.
  • Must be a guy/girl thing because I've never had a beef with Anna K...Throw a couple cowboys (kk) my way and ragged looking flop and I promise I'll be going home momentarily feeling cheap and unrespected..no hand seems to fck me quite as hard and as often as those tempermental jerks. ;)

    I agree with Greg..I've limped in EP with AK. Its a move that I seldom employ (be aggressive, B-E aggressive) but against the right opponents, I've had some BIG successes with it, either with the limp/re-raise misrepresenting a bigger hand- or simply when you hit the disguised top pr/top kicker..I think you MUST have a good read on your opponents and you must be in a situation where you can afford to throw it away. But NOT a completely horrible move.
  • After a review of my pokertracker stats:

    AQ is the devil,

    AK make money

    KK is my biggest $ maker (win % 100%)

    AA lost me the most $ in September (win % 34%)

    78 Make money too

    Mark
  • ask happy, he'll tell you:

    K8 MAKE MUHHHHHHNEY!
  • I totally agree with Greg/Kristy. AK is great if played properly. Whether that is fast and aggressive or slow/trapping really depends on the makeup of the table. I find AK is difficult to play without any read on the table, but once you know how everyone plays, you can make a lot with it (or get away cheaply).
    DrTyore wrote:
    KK is my biggest $ maker (win % 100%)
    AA lost me the most $ in September (win % 34%)
    100% and 34%. Prepare to ride the "Variance Express"... ;)
  • DrTyore wrote:
    After a review of my pokertracker stats:

    AQ is the devil,

    AK make money

    KK is my biggest $ maker (win % 100%)

    AA lost me the most $ in September (win % 34%)

    78 Make money too

    Mark

    100% win with KK?no way there's enough hands in that sample to mean a damn thing
  • Thing to remember is AK is ONLY a drawing hand to begin with. If you don't improve right away, it's best to toss it early and move on to the next hand.

    When it hits though, it can very lucrative.

    And I would like to add the Dream Hand to the list...Q2o!! EXTREMELY PROFITABLE!!! :D
  • Only in your dreams, AJ (and Derek).

    I have found 74o OOP to be extremely profitable. Esp when someone in EP min-raises with AA. What a freakin monster!

    p.s. I agree with Beanie/Kristy.
  • DrTyore wrote:
    After a review of my pokertracker stats:

    AQ is the devil,

    AK make money

    KK is my biggest $ maker (win % 100%)

    AA lost me the most $ in September (win % 34%)

    78 Make money too

    Mark

    100% win with KK?no way there's enough hands in that sample to mean a damn thing

    My bad.. should have clarified..

    That was just in September hands

    Mark
  • pkrfce9 wrote:
    as for limping with AK in EP? meh. doesn't seem like a big problem to me given the right circumstances.
    Agreed.  I was playing in an underground cash game last night where there were two maniacs with huge stacks for most of the night. I had busted out, but kept rebuying because I knew that it was a juicy table.  I got
    :ad :kd
    and decided to just call.  Maniac LAG on the big blind raised 5 times the BB.  I just flat call.  Flop was something like
    :as :9d :5d
    Maniac bets more than the pot, I flat call again along with a loose-passive calling station with the biggest stack.  Turn is another diamond to give me the nut flush.
    Maniac goes all-in, I flat call again along with the elephant (who could not speak English).  The elephant had previously gotten irritated when I was looking at his chip stack, so after the river, I intentionally stared at his massive stack of chips.  He again protested in a foreign language, went on tilt, and called my all-in.

    After the maniac busted out, he went on tilt and kept rebuying until he ran out of money.  The game finally closed down when the lucky elephant and I had everybody's money. :D
  • I have no problem with A,K bing played strongly before the flop. Most times you want to get out the small pocket pairs. I really do mean most here. I guess the table I was thinking of limping with it wasn't that bad a play. Later on in the tournament I seemed to be the only one who wasn't limping or min raising. :-))) It's how it gets played when it misses the flop completely that bugs me. At that point it goes from being a big hand to being a serious dog.
    There's a popular magazine column that this month features a letter from a guy who thought he was hard done by when a pocket pair beat out his A,K that had missed the flop. That's the sort of thing I'm talking about.
    Just to make it clear I don't particularly want to get rid of all the donks. As a matter of fact send any you find my way. Had one the other night who decided he was going to announce his hand to the table then go all in. :-)))))) Can you immagine anyone saying: "I can't fold I've got too many outs!" and then going all in on the turn?
    Hm, let's see, he has straight and flush possibilitys but not a made hand, hm. I only wish I'd been in the hand with a nice pair of anything. Since I wasn't in the hand it wasn't much use to me other than as comic relief. I laughed myself silly when he got called and busted out. I guess the moral to that one is if you're going to be a donk don't announce it to the rest of the table. They'll find you out soon enough on their own.
  • lol after watching LA poker scene with their resident "Jesus" calling a 1K river bet with AK high, i'm inclined to agree with you. (Flush and straight possibility on board)
  • It's a great drawing hand, enough said. Actually, AK is one of my favorite hands. But I'm not married to it post-flop either.

    Johnnie
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