Also.... Given casinos are clearly doing their best to kill casino poker interest... Let's just make card rooms legal.

I'd quit my job tomorrow to run one.

Mark

DrTyore;c-421285 wroteThis forum has (albeit 15 years ago) been monitored by the OPP. A game we were planning that was going to take money out for prizes and such. The OPP knocked on the door of a reg.

People not minding a rake is fine and what not. It does make the game illegal and you could face fines and or court dates.

Mark

I suppose i understand that, but my question came about because it seemed like the posters were almost angry at a guy that wanted to hold a raked game. Like, personally, from the sounds of it, it sounded like a game i would like to go to. Give me free food and drinks and give me a chance to make a few hundred dollars in a few hours or a night and i am happy to see you also make a profit from a rake. god knows any of us that play on stars are paying plenty of rake, and they are not ordering us pizza! lol

To be clear, my post was not out of anger at all. I've played in raked home games but I prefer no rake as I normally don't partake in "free" food or alcohol anyway. I just thought it was funny that the guy argued he isn't taking a rake since the money goes towards food/drinks. Pretty dumb rationalizing there.

I'm with trigs here (wtf?)

Dude was saying nonsense about its legality and trying to convince people of his interpretation / beliefs. Because he simply wanted something to be true, he ignored the facts.

There needs to be a term for something like that. Might be helpful to identify it whenever we see it in any other aspects of our lives.

Mark

My two cents as someone who has played in many many underground games. Most of these places do take extra rake. I have even caught “so called” friends taking extra rake out of big pots. You need to really watch the dealers in these games, I have even seen dealers “make change” and then an extra chip goes into the rack that is only for tips. You need to be aware if you play in any underground game that the dealers can make shit happen.

Most of the time the rake is unbeatable unless you get up over 5-10 even with no dealer shenanigans.

He was even saying mean things to me, an admin, and it hurt my feelings... ;)

compuease;c-421293 wroteHe was even saying mean things to me, an admin, and it hurt my feelings... ;)

Pipe down old man, go change your depends and put your teeth back in

Toronto Pimp;c-421294 wrote

compuease;c-421293 wroteHe was even saying mean things to me, an admin, and it hurt my feelings... ;)

Pipe down old man, go change your depends and put your teeth back in

I have a hard time remembering which end which goes on/in... Can you help?

I sure can. Just got my Amazon shipment of adult diapers.

but but but...... Bugsy called us snowflake admins.. I don't even like snow anymore..

DrTyore;c-421291 wroteI'm with trigs here (wtf?)

Dude was saying nonsense about its legality and trying to convince people of his interpretation / beliefs. Because he simply wanted something to be true, he ignored the facts.

There needs to be a term for something like that. Might be helpful to identify it whenever we see it in any other aspects of our lives.

Mark

I think the term is "gaslighting":

"Gaslighting is a colloquialism, loosely defined as making someone question their own reality.

The term may also be used to describe a person (a "gaslighter") who presents a false narrative to another group or person which leads them to doubt their perceptions and become misled (generally for the gaslighters' own benefit), disoriented or distressed. Generally, this dynamic is only possible when the audience is vulnerable, such as in unequal power relationships, or when the audience is fearful of the losses associated with challenging the false narrative. Gaslighting is not necessarily malicious or intentional, although in some cases it is."

For reference, google D. Trump and acolytes.

Gogie;c-421298 wrote

DrTyore;c-421291 wroteI'm with trigs here (wtf?)

Dude was saying nonsense about its legality and trying to convince people of his interpretation / beliefs. Because he simply wanted something to be true, he ignored the facts.

There needs to be a term for something like that. Might be helpful to identify it whenever we see it in any other aspects of our lives.

Mark

I think the term is "gaslighting":

"Gaslighting is a colloquialism, loosely defined as making someone question their own reality.

The term may also be used to describe a person (a "gaslighter") who presents a false narrative to another group or person which leads them to doubt their perceptions and become misled (generally for the gaslighters' own benefit), disoriented or distressed. Generally, this dynamic is only possible when the audience is vulnerable, such as in unequal power relationships, or when the audience is fearful of the losses associated with challenging the false narrative. Gaslighting is not necessarily malicious or intentional, although in some cases it is."

For reference, google D. Trump and acolytes.

Hey

I appreciate the response but I was being tongue in cheek. This guy was spreading misinformation, and I was drawing a line to (oddly enough) similar things that trump had done (is doing) around <gestures to years 2015 to present day>.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if this guy (and trump 100% does) believes what he said. This technically would be closer to "cognitive dissonance" or when people experience stress because their behaviours contradict their perceptions of themselves / beliefs / morals etc. (pay attention here forumers... Most of us do this in our poker "learning").

Quick example? I think I'm a good poker player, I play badly repeatedly, I say online poker is rigged / other guy just got lucky / my flush draws never get there / etc.

Also I like to think of it as the wizards first rule (sword of truth series by Terry Goodkind) :smile:

"People are stupid. They believe things mainly because they either want them to be true or fear them to be true."

Mark

HeyMods!

Can I change my Screen Name to Gaslighter?

Card Dead;c-421300 wroteHeyMods!

Can I change my Screen Name to Gaslighter?

Should take effect at midnight.

compuease;c-421301 wrote

Card Dead;c-421300 wroteHeyMods!

Can I change my Screen Name to Gaslighter?

Should take effect at midnight.

OR every time you eat beans.

moose;c-421313 wrote

compuease;c-421301 wrote

Card Dead;c-421300 wroteHeyMods!

Can I change my Screen Name to Gaslighter?

Should take effect at midnight.

OR every time you eat beans.

Should work too!