Wetts1012
Dear frequenters of the OTL,
I have not read your threads.
But your posts appear to be long, well thought out, and you appear to be passionate about the issues being discussed. Kudos.
Unfortunately the same passion and discussion does not, in my opinion, appear to be transferred into the primary focus of this forum.
You fail to chime in on the few and far between poker related posts on this forum. You fail to bring thoughts on hands and analysis to the table.
Failing to see this site for what it is (a poker related business, generating very small revenues for the site owner), will be the demise when the poker related traffic dies (new people come here for the game, not for the OTL).
I am obviously not pointing out everyone, but making a general blanket statement that most of the traffic on this site is not poker related, and thats not a good thing for our long term survival.
Discuss.
moose
Actually I was thinking that people like Blondefish were generating a lot of interest in live tournamenting/live cash play. There is no shortage of takers in any BAP.
Grinders will always be grinders. People who have limited time to devote to poker are realizing live poker has more benefits from a social standpoint and those who don't, prefer to rail/BAP those who do commit to the game.
This is the natural progression of the game. There are few new players and the regs don't need to discuss chips, cards, tables, dealing techniques, the mechanics of tourneys, blind levels, strategy etc.
As far as making a living off this site - that gravy train left the station many years ago. Nobody discusses rakeback or bonuses anymore. The free and easy money online is gone. You only have to look at sites like pokersource.com which made a huge amount of money for nevadajacks by giving away their chipsets as bonuses. pokersource was one of the busiest sites around with a very active forum and is now a shell of its former self. nevadajacks has been sold to another company and barely exists as a going concern now. homepokertourney is another site that is almost dead and they used to run a live chat every night in which many members participated. Their WSOP giveaways were legendary, a giveaway for every event, all paid for by sponsors - this year they didn't give away one thing.
Out of the dozens of forums poker related, how many have active posters anymore? 2+2, pocketfives, chiptalk, us, who else?
I think it is a credit to the regular members and the mods that keep this site going as it is. If people want to debate GOD or run dead pools or discuss Blue Jays or whatever, what difference does it make? How does it in any way take away from the poker content? This is a place where friends gather.
GTA Poker
Phew...I thought Wetts had an inside track on another 40 day flood
Wetts1012
GTA Poker;356722 wrotePhew...I thought Wetts had an inside track on another 40 day flood
No, but I can predict the future.
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GTA Poker
That reminds me
Gabbo
moose
Limited survey of the last 20 posts on this site:
4 OTL
7 B&M
4 Home Games
3 Online Poker talk
1 strategy
1 introductions
Atheist thread in OTL, 42 posts, 390 views
CNE thread in B&M, 4 posts but 111 views, so the OTL thread has 10x the posts but <4x views but the CNE thread has generated >25x views from only 4 posts. It's pretty much a similar ratio for anything poker content related.
Pretty much sums up what I said, and hardly seems to indicate that most of the interest is in OTL
Wetts1012
Re: Moose response.
Yes, the regs are maintaining this place, but if you were classify this forum as dying, stagnant, thriving....where would you place it?
There have been 15 threads in the MTT strategy section, THIS YEAR!
The OTL is thriving, but new members dont join to post in the OTL, they wander there after hundreds of poker related posts. Failing that component the forum dies.
To think that the current model is part of a lifecycle is naive imo.
jontm
I think Wetts is into his recently resurfaced liquor stash...
Wetts1012
FWIW I would love to hear the current site owner post here and give us his honest opinion about the state of the union.
If only to (hopefully) validate Mooses theory that everything is kosher.
JimmyHo
I hear
Open Face Chinese Poker is making a come back :) there are even tournaments surfacing now in Ontario....no limit is dead!
Wetts1012
pokerJAH;356735 wrotethere are even tournaments surfacing now in Ontario
Link?
Milo
Wetts1012;356733 wroteFWIW I would love to hear the current site owner post here and give us his honest opinion about the state of the union.
Proving the existence of the owner of this place would be akin to proving the existence of God, or the proper way of playing JJ. :-\
GTA Poker
pokerJAH;356735 wroteI hear
Open Face Chinese Poker is making a come back :) there are even tournaments surfacing now in Ontario....no limit is dead!
didn't you have a plan less than a month ago to make 100k/yr playing NL?
wat?
#thinkbeforeyouspew
GTA Poker
sabbatical is over soon...no worries
Gabbo
PS -- this has never been a primarily poker based forum, but it used to have more poker players
compuease
OMGjoerogan;356740 wroteLong time lurker of this site.
Liar.
I used to enjoy the poker content, but it has dwindled immensely
I wouldn't even call this a "poker forum" anymore, which is a shame considering Canada is an elite poker nation, and this is pretty much the flag ship on the internet for "canadian" poker. :-\
I think it stems to middle aged men that are too opinionated on world issues, poor moderating You volunteering? and not enough poker based members stay, after being ridiculed by someone less involved in the game.
just my .02 And that's about the level you play..
Or perhaps too many pro couch movers....>:D
Milo
I am getting better at my reads, as that was my first thought, as well.
GTA Poker
damn, I guess it's time to move back home with my parents and troll interweb sites
GTA Poker
he is coming
compuease
OMGjoerogan;356750 wrotelmao
HU4ROLLZ
im not even joking comp, come sit with ur 50 bucks online, and ill sit with a few K.. hey, if u get lucky and crush me, ill disappear forever!!! You have never had a few K of your own in your life.
this site has been off the rails forever, and lost ALL valuable poker posters, with the exception of wetts, steve kerr, ash, buddy and corey, and i would consider them "occasional" posters at best.
its literally a shame that all good canadian pro's think this site (and probably all of you) is a joke. Hope you don't include yourself in that group of pro's..
Oh... and bye!
GTA Poker
he's gonna fed