compuease;309048 wroteI stand by my original statement of..
"I have a feeling there is more to this story than presently tabled.."
Juice;340590 wroteI am surprised to read this post because I happened to be playing on this same table when this incident happened.
From what I remember, your first action was when you tabled your cards you threw them so hard they went into the muck. Your cards were not first tabled and then moved into the muck, you threw them in there. The dealer then called the floor. There was no conversation with the other player at all about them not being able to see your cards and you moving them into the muck.
None of us at the table backed you up, we were all dead silent because your cards were sitting in the muck. We all felt bad for you because you were so upset.
It is a pretty basic rule that any seasoned poker player knows. If your cards hit the muck, they are dead.
What you didnt see when you left the table was that once you were gone we all talked about it and backed up the TD's decision. We just didnt want to say anything in front of you because you were so visibly upset.
It was not the dealers fault, that was doing her job, it was not the TD's fault for making the call.
As poker players, sometimes we have to learn the hard way for our mistakes. However I dont think you learned anything here because your attitude is that you didnt do anything wrong and are blaming everyone (dealer, TD, collusion with people at the table etc) but yourself.
I do like what Popkorn had to say though. I wish more casino's used that rule.
Welcome Juice, nice to hear a "neutral" side to the story, Just knew there was more to it.. FYI, the OP has not been back since April. He was not getting the sympathy he so obviously wanted..