$1k fallsview classic seat wanted for action/coaching

Richard~

costanza;297604 wrote

lol, don't bother coming back with that attitude

GTA Poker

Scotty12;297601 wrote If I win, I wont tip a penny.

You playing this event would, likely, be the most hypocritical thing that I have heard on this poker forum. Ever.

Spouting opinions is great, but actions are what count in defining your character.

philliivey

Heyscotty

Ahh OK good enough for me I was going to ask if a life issue got in the way but than a shit storm got started LOL :)

GTA Poker

philliivey;297635 wroteheyscotty

ahh ok good enough for me i was going to ask if a life issue got in the way but than a shit storm got started lol :)

qed

Scotty12

GTA Poker;297616 wroteYou playing this event would, likely, be the most hypocritical thing that I have heard on this poker forum. Ever.

Spouting opinions is great, but actions are what count in defining your character.

Your opinion means a great deal to me when you, likely, dont know the definition of the words you are using.

Just because I disagree with the casino's policy and have a vendetta against scalping, I should sit this one out? Noted.

Great job assessing my character based off of a few passionate/angry posts on an internet forum.

philliivey;297635 wroteHeyscotty

Ahh OK good enough for me I was going to ask if a life issue got in the way but than a shit storm got started LOL :)

Nah, just general holiday business. When Im not grinding at my home I usually remove myself completely from pokerforums etc. Obviously not a great excuse for failing to work this out in time. I just didnt realize more than a months advance planning was required.

ryanghall

Get help.

T8urmoney

Actually surprising to me that a casino could allow a person to purchase multiple tickets. Out here and in Vegas, you need to register with your players card or you just can't register.

This issue would be easily fixed by the casino........and they have to know it's a problem.

Understand where Scotty's coming from, but I think the hate should go to Fallsview, and not so much the scalpers.

Scalpers gonna scalp

Scotty12

ryanghall;297648 wroteGet help.

Great contribution Ryan, very necessary.

The only 'help' I need is finding a tickets for a fair price because of people like you.

So fucking pissed I ever gave you advice on poker hands, free jays VIP tickets, or even accepted a ride from you. A relatively insignificant amount of $ is more meaningful than helping someone that has been kind to you for years? Pitiful.

T8urmoney;297649 wroteUnderstand where Scotty's coming from, but I think the hate should go to Fallsview, and not so much the scalpers.

Scalpers gonna scalp

Believe me, I hate Fallsview's policy first and foremost. It just wont do very much good posting about that in a poker forum, where it has been said many times. They clearly don't care.

Scalpers are gonna scalp, because they are scum fucks. Its just depressing to see a community member and fellow poker 'pro' sinking to their level.

windbreaker

It's clearly Fallsview policy that has created this situation. It's much easier for one entity to fix the problem than it is to assume that every person on earth will stop scalping. So the problem begins and ends with Fallsview. Try twitter/Facebook and other social medians to show display your displeasure. Boycott the event/poker room until there's changes. Why support a room with a policy you total disagree with?

Your anger is directed mainly to one person. You now know how much he views your friendship...apparently it worth less than the 15% equity you're giving up. So move on. Any additional energy you put into it...will be a waste of your time and energy.

Richard~

I dunno, is it satan's fault everybody is going to hell? you're talking about how it could be fixed, that doesn't make it more morally correct to sell overpriced tickets

windbreaker

Don't see scalping as a moral issue. If you don't like it, don't buy it. No one forced you to overpay for something. How is this different from any other business that sells for profit?

Is it unfair that some people can get the face value price and others can not? Yes, of course. That's why ticketmaster sells limited amount of tickets for concerts/sporting events per transaction. That doesn't solve the problems for tickets in high demand, but it at least curbs the problem and is fair for all people buying tickets in the first place.

Fallsview on the other hand, has gone out of it's way to create a problem that shouldn't exist. Seems obvious that that will sell out this event no matter how they distribute the tickets. They choose to design a system that let's them sell out quickly without any consideration to the players that play the event.

There are three entities that can change things:

A) Scalpers - Good luck converting everyone to curbing this

B) Police - I sure hope they have better things to do with their time

C) Fallsview - Their policy artificially created this non-existent problem before.

Richard~

ofc it's a moral issue, they're taking advantage of people who doesn't know better

and there's no need to convince everyone to stop, it's enough letting the people you see doing it know that you don't approve, I'm not looking to solve anything

windbreaker

Last time I checked, no one forced those guys to pay more than they want to. If everyone decided to not pay extra for these tickets, than there will be no market.

Scalping is not illegal everywhere. In Alberta, it's legal. It works both ways. The sellers profit on high demand games, but sometimes they can't even sell tickets to Oilers games. Pretty sure no one feels sorry for them when that happens.

Both the buyer/seller are aware how much the ticket are worth. They agree on a price and both get what they want at the end. Where's the moral issue?

T8urmoney

windbreaker;297678 wrote In Alberta, it's legal.

it was changed a couple years ago I believe, although prior to that I'd never seen or heard of it being enforced anyhow

but, it is illegal where this is taking place (Ontario).....laws in other areas of the country are not relevant

Richard~

it's not illegal everywhere, where is the moral issue?

the easiest way to answer that is to ask why it is illegal to begin with I guess

windbreaker

This may be a legal issue, but it's not a moral issue.

The relevance of it being legal in other parts of the country is the reasoning behind why the law was scrapped in the first place, because the law is rarely enforced. I don't see how anyone is going to care about two people mutually agreeing to buy/sell tickets at a mark up.

If the seller was selling something other than what they claim the tickets are, then that's a moral issue.

People can decide to not wear a seat belt, drive 5km over the speed limit, jaywalk, etc....all those things may be illegal, but they're certainly not immoral.

Richard~

windbreaker;297685 wrote People can decide to not wear a seat belt, drive 5km over the speed limit, jaywalk, etc....all those things may be illegal, but they're certainly not immoral.

I think you're simply wrong about this part, speeding and jaywalking can be considered immoral because they're illegal. As for scalping maybe some people do get what they want, but many just get what they think they want cause they don't know better. just as immoral as pretending to be psychic and profiting from it

TheMill

I think one of the BIGGEST issues in life is when people confuse morality with legality. One is societies rules, the other personal beliefs. If scalping is illegal how do stubhub and others operate. Off shore?

GTA Poker

Scotty12;297645 wroteYour opinion means a great deal to me when you, likely, dont know the definition of the words you are using.

Just because I disagree with the casino's policy and have a vendetta against scalping, I should sit this one out? Noted.

Great job assessing my character based off of a few passionate/angry posts on an internet forum.

I'm starting to think the reason that your girlfriends' parents never like you has little to do with your chosen profession. For someone to post repeated diatribes on a subject (including slandering a real-life friend publicly for what he has chosen to do as a business deal) and then, on the same forum, bump threads looking for seats to the exact venue that you are so passionately against certainly indicates to everyone that you have no character in reference to this crusade of yours.

Your lengthy posts have become hollow at best and make it clear that you are just upset that you did not get a ticket at what you perceive to be a fair mark-up. You need to grow-up and grow a pair and stop crying that you didn't get a ticket for $1150 or whatever you arbitrarily deem to be a fair price.

Your empty words are just as much an indicator of what is wrong with the poker playing professionals today as the actions of those scalping tickets. Grow a pair and have some conviction behind your words and then maybe your girlfriends' parents will see you as a man and not a child and have some level of approval of you. Or, better yet, maybe when you grow-up you will be strong enough not to care what your girlfriends' parents think of you at all.

Milo

Here endeth the lesson . . .

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