Wetts1012
STR82ACE
Viewed this one yesterday...positively sick angle. I especially like the part where the TD practically told everyone what the guy had as he had done it before more than once in the past.
Sickest part of it all though is that the bastard won the tourney.
wildbill7145
If the floor man had previous experience with this guy doing exactly the same thing, can't he reward that with a penalty? I'm not sure if there is a formal list of acts that warrant one, but that should be on it. I suppose it depends on which casino/tour/game you're playing in.
Yes, that was clumsy and pathetic.
Wetts1012
wildbill7145;275177 wroteIf the floor man had previous experience with this guy doing exactly the same thing, can't he reward that with a penalty? I'm not sure if there is a formal list of acts that warrant one, but that should be on it. I suppose it depends on which casino/tour/game you're playing in.
Yes, that was clumsy and pathetic.
Villain did not break any rules.
Milo
How about bringing the game into disrepute? If I was the TD, that ass-hole is sitting out for at least an orbit or two.
wildbill7145
Wetts1012;275178 wroteVillain did not break any rules.
Yes, I guess you are technically correct. He was held to his first verbal action. Period. One would think with a pattern of these transgressions, a penalty would be worthy.
compuease
Yep 2+2 is all over it as well.... Justice was NOT served.. I'll never forget when I was angled, the only time I'm aware of at least.
Playing cash at the GN maybe 4 years ago. I'm in the 9 seat, op is in the 1 so I can't easily see him. I call down this guys bet on the river, think I had top top and he announces straight and tables his hand. I didn't even look, just mucked. He had nothing, knew it and laughed... Dealer just said protect your hand. Man was I pissed. If I had been a few years younger (and had my colt 45), there might have been an incident. I sure learned from it though...
Milo
From Robert's Rules v.11:
Making statements or taking action that could unfairly influence the course of play . . . according to the TD he had done this a few times previously in the tourney, so it is an obvious attempt to influence play, imo.
Management reserves the right to make decisions in the spirit of fairness, even if a strict interpretation of the rules may indicate a different ruling . . .
this would seem to be the TD's get out of jail free card in terms of dealing with this prick.
This is all before you even get to specific tourney rules and regs . . . that prick should have been sitting out for a while, if he was even allowed to take that stunt as far as he did.
folded
i like it....
i will use this next cash game.. lol
Hobbes
<--- wonders if he should try that in Windsor this week. :D
DrTyore
Something VERY similar happened to me a few years back...
But I think there were two ppl in on it. I didn't go back there
Mark
betrthanphil
wow thats super gross. Guy took it well, I have no respect for people who pull that crap.
Richard~
betrthanphil;275280 wrotewow thats super gross. Guy took it well, I have no respect for people who pull that crap.
as you shouldn't have :P It's funny how he kinda shot himself in the foot here, KQ might have called a normal sized raise just a he said here
JimmyHo
if the guy pulled the same move, and was bluffing, and the other player folded as a result, would it still be considered an angle? Don't all verbal comments influence the course of play?
Animaux
Considering the floor person had enough experience with this guy that he felt comfortable actually warning the other player before he acted; I feel the floor should have been able to issue a penalty upon confirming the angle shoot.
I guess it takes all kinds of people, but it is carnival-guys like this player who ruin poker for the rest of us.
asxn557
I like this answer from "King_of_NYC" on the 2+2 site:
"If the TD *knew* he was shooting an angle, he should have honored the 'no-speak-English' bullch*t and ruled it a call. Then after he flips his hand over, give him a one round penalty for checking the nuts. "
compuease
asxn557;275543 wroteI like this answer from "King_of_NYC" on the 2+2 site:
"If the TD *knew* he was shooting an angle, he should have honored the 'no-speak-English' bullch*t and ruled it a call. Then after he flips his hand over, give him a one round penalty for checking the nuts. "
While I agree with the sentiments, it wasn't the nuts... best hand, but not the nuts...
blackmagicz
Angle shoot and all but after listening to the interview and the TD's comment why did buddy make the call?? On the off chance he was now angle shooting a bluff...I mean I look at that guy trying to pull this move and he looks like a used car sales man which tells me right away he wouldn't be smart enough to reverse angle shoot me and it is probably the nuts.
Factor in how deep you are in the tournament, the texture of the board....I muck face up and ask for the hand to be exposed and angle shoot myself to the TD. I am pretty sure if you kicked up a big enough stink on National Television the TD would have exposed the hand and it would have incited a riot lol.
1. No way am I playing against a guy who does that legitimately
2. No way am I having the TD tell me what he is doing without showing me after the fact
3. I expect a penalty to be issued so I will kick, scream, and cry and basically whine to the other players until something is done ;)
Putting on Oscar performances after an angle/rule violation is my specialty in tournaments.
SuitedPair
steel toes dead centre between the eyes out front for being such a douche bag.
saw a guy at the CNE last year pull two shit head moves and I called him out on both of them at the table and make him such a spectacle he left.
1st, action passes him and he watches as everyone behind him checks, the blinds get ready to chop and he says "I still have cards and I raise", blinds fold and away goes the blinds to dipshit. He watched it the whole way and knew action had passed him.
2nd, river comes, SB bets, dipshit pushes his hand towards the muck on a board with 3 spades on it and then says he needed to check his cards again, pickes them up and exposes the ace of spades to the whole table with a bit of a pathetic flourish and then raises. SB tanks, I know dipshit doesn't have it so I pull another move that is probably out of bounds of more than one rule and tell SB that if he calls and loses I'll pay him the called bet. (I'm out of the hand preflop) I called dipshit's hand as ACE rag offsuite. Of course dipshit doesn't have it and SB's top pair crap kicker holds. dipshit left shortly there after.
getem76
I have enough experience with things like this playing "magic the gathering" at high levels, soon as you pull something that questionable, EVERYTIME I sit with you I just call judge to the game and sit please "everything he says is binding, period!" let me tell you something, in a game where you announce everything all the time, that gets old fast!
Any mistake or something he says/skips whatever, its all binding all the time, its actually funny when the frustration is reversed when I just keep saying "oh, he said that, thats what he does!"