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ddmilcan

The Prophet 22;355943 wroteThe July 31 non-waiver trade deadline is looming Jays are 8.5 games from the playoffs. The next 10 games are Tampa 3, Dodgers 3 and Houston 4. How many win do the Jays need to be buyers and not sellers? If they go 5-5 do you trade EE, Joey Bats and Brett Cecil and whomever else for prospects. Or hang on and wait for the likes of Drew and Kyle to come back and go for it again next year.

or are you typing with an accent since you have been gone?

Never miss a post from you Brent..

Quick question since you are way over there... do you get the games one day before us?

Edwin no.
Joey Batts Yes
Brett(s) Yes

Milton Slim

"Dickey for Mayor" a good change from all the curves the present mayor is throwing

The Prophet 22

ddmilcan;355944 wrote
Never miss a post from you Brent..

Quick question since you are way over there... do you get the games one day before us?

Edwin no.
Joey Batts Yes
Brett(s) Yes

Milton Slim

"Dickey for Mayor" a good change from all the curves the present mayor is throwing

The Jays could use someone who could throw a decent curve.

Snowflake or Oil Can, I forget which you prefer.

Congrads. on being the person with the 500th post in this thread! Wouldn't it be nice if it was that easy eh. We could make some money then!

The games start at 8:07 am, so as I am typing they are announcing the starting lineups for the all-star game. It is Wednesday morning July 17th. Yes I am still at the school. School ended last Friday but we run an ESL school during the summer that I have to teach.

My class are avid Blue Jays fans. They are learning the MLB teams and cities. I call it my world geography class.

Gotta run,

Here's to a better second half! (But still hope they lose 27 games the rest of the way)

Prophet 22

BrennerM

Fantastic 1-hour documentary airing on Sportsnet about the 93 Jays victory. They did a similar one last year for the 92 team. I'm sure they will be replaying it over the next few days. If you were a Jays fan in 93 you should not miss it. Most interesting for me was the insight from Phillies Mitch Williams and Darren Daulton, but lots of new interviews with Molitor, Carter, Hentgen, etc, as well.

Rogers guide calls it "Making History : the 1993 Toronto Blue Jays" but the actual title is "Touch 'Em All Joe"

The Prophet 22

Mark Buehrle's assessment after Saturday's loss that the Blue Jays, who were expected to contend, might be "overrated."

"It's hard to see it any other way ... because of our record." R.A. Dicky agrees. EE says at the allstar game "we need better pitching" Yet with the game on the line in the 9th, both he and Joey bats get out. Back in June 23rd Tampa and the Jays were both two games above .500. Look at the stats 3 1/2 weeks later. Tampa is viaing for the division lead while Toronto is still in the basement with no way out anytime soon.

Bye Bye AA. The team you have on the field, we'd be lucky to be the Doosan Bears of the Korean Baseball league.

Took four of my students to the game on the weekend. I'd post pictures but can't figure out how. Maybe I will find time to write a full report. It was an interesting experience.

Hobbes

1hr to go for the non-waiver trade deadline and all is quiet for all teams.

The Prophet 22

The Toronto Blue Jays did not make any moves as baseball's trade deadline passed on Wednesday afternoon. Does this mean AA has thrown in the towel on the season? It would seem so at this point. (Guaranteeing I will win my bets on this board. Maybe even before the end of August). I don't understand the logic here. Last year we got Steven Delabar for Eric Thames at the deadline. Surely a deal was to be had for a guy like Oliver or make a decision on Cecil and sell high to a team like the Dodgers who are always willing to over pay. Or even one of my favorite Jays Rajai Davis for a piece for next years team.

The Jays defense is in need of an upgrade at several positions, another 4 errors today. And to be honest I am sick of all the whining from José Bautista. Although the umpires would never admit it, it does have an effect on the team around the league. (see the 80's and 90's - Cito and Joe Brinkman.)

If AA had some imagination he could have made a move to move Bautista to a contender the way Gillick moved Fernandez for Alomar. Or moved him to a contending team for a stud pitching prospect. My guess is AA is waiting on the likes of Drew Hutchison and and Kyle Drabek. What he fails to realize is that if he had an above average catcher, he pitching staff stats would drastically improve.

moose

I think it was more about salary. Bautista is a huge bargain, Oliver's salary is so low, any pieces coming back would put more money on the books for next year. Boney and Melky - untradeable. I'm sure Buerhle got shopped but he makes 19 million next year.

And yes, I'm getting my $10 warmed up...

moose

Anybody else wonder why when they revealled Carlos Delgado's name on the Level of Excellence, why there was no number?

I noticed this week that they had redone the entire level and removed everyone's numbers. Lame.

Numbers now gonzo for all the players.

JohnnieH

This stat makes me gitty:

This is the 14th time in a row that the Sox have lost on Aug 15th, which is Ben Affleck's birthday.

moose

Buck was really drunk tonight. I mean anyone who knows anything at all about baseball knows Hammerin' Hank with 755 homers (please we are not going to mention 'roid boy) has the MLB record. But honestly, how can he actually announce that A-Roid now has 751 career homers? Uhh Buck you missed by like ONE HUNDRED homers. You don't think there would be more buzz around A-Roid if he was actually close to Aaron's record?

BrennerM

When I was there a few weeks ago, all player numbers on the "Level of Excellence" were gone except for Alomar's retired number and Tom Cheek's 4306. I suspect they did it to avoid confusion between actual retired numbers and the non-retired numbers of the "excellent" players (not really an issue with 4306). Can't say I really care, they still have the names up there.

moose

I think the number is important. Just ask the sox and the Yankees. Current Jays don't wear a Fernandez or Carter jersey but they can wear their number. Besides the 12 has a circle around it AND there is a big number hanging from the rafters as well.

moose

All Blue Jays Canada day tshirts and jerseys now 50% off at the dome.

The Prophet 22

Well another September for the Jays and another year of playing meaningless ball this month, as least as far as it concerns the Jays and their record. They will not make it over the 86 win total as predicated by yours truly, Prophet22. They are a miserable team with an incomprehensible management team running this organization. This team will not win with AA in charge and Gibons has worn out his welcome.

Some have already contacted and paid. I am asking the rest to PM Hobbes. As I said when I made the bet, he will pay out if I lose, wasn't going to happen, and collect if I win.

Prophet 22

PS. I am willing to set another number next year if you want to try and get your money back.

Paid

Johnnie
Buzzzardd
Moose will take of it when he sees Hobbes

Milo

I was at the bar last night to watch the UFC ppv with a group of friends. Could not believe that two barflys were insisting on keeping the TVs on the Jays game. The Sox had clinched, the Jays were done, what exactly was the significance involved in this game? GTFO . . .

JohnnieH

The Prophet 22;360539 wroteWell another September for the Jays and another year of playing meaningless ball this month, as least as far as it concerns the Jays and their record. They will not make it over the 86 win total as predicated by yours truly, Prophet22. They are a miserable team with an incomprehensible management team running this organization. This team will not win with AA in charge and Gibons has worn out his welcome.

Some have already contacted and paid. I am asking the rest to PM Hobbes. As I said when I made the bet, he will pay out if I lose, wasn't going to happen, and collect if I win.

Prophet 22

PS. I am willing to set another number next year if you want to try and get your money back.

I think this is laying it on a bit thick, don't you?

Yes, they have been disappointing and underachieving, but let's not go over board. They are in the toughest division in the Majors after all.

The Prophet 22

No I don't to be honest. AA abandon his plan of stock piling and building from within, something his predecessor knows something about. Go down the list of needs for the up coming year here's mine:

Catcher
2nd base
two starting pitchers
3rd base, lack of power, to many errors
and a new training staff, cause our pitchers are always getting hurt
manager

Overall team defense. The Jays were terrible this year.

We don't even have one guy hitting over 300.

You cry that we are in the hardest division, glad you brought that up:

17-17 vs the west
16-15 vs the central

for a combine 33 wins!

I said in December, that it will take 91 wins to get in the playoffs and this team is far from it.

You can't change half your rooster in one year and expect to be great. They need to shed some payroll and let the kids develop at the MLB level.

Every team no matter the division is going to win 50 games and lose 50 games. The season comes down to the last 62 games. How you manage your injuries. Develop a winning attitude on the road while having a place to be feared when coming to Toronto.

I am willing to see the argument as to why Tampa and Baltimore are able to play in the East and Toronto isn't. Toronto is the only team in the east with a losing record.

And they need to get rid of the turf it cost us injuries.

Not venting at you Johnnie just sick of mediocre. I deal with incompetence bosses above me at work. I shouldn't have to deal with it in my leisure sport time as well.

The Toronto Blue Jays have no heart.

The Prophet 22

Milo;360544 wroteI was at the bar last night to watch the UFC ppv with a group of friends. Could not believe that two barflys were insisting on keeping the TVs on the Jays game. The Sox had clinched, the Jays were done, what exactly was the significance involved in this game? GTFO . . .

It is the sport, baseball is a great game!

Buzzzardd

Milo;360544 wroteI was at the bar last night to watch the UFC ppv with a group of friends. Could not believe that two barflys were insisting on keeping the TVs on the Jays game. The Sox had clinched, the Jays were done, what exactly was the significance involved in this game? GTFO . . .

Maybe because UFC was the other choice.

piggypie123

Buzzzardd;360609 wroteMaybe because UFC was the other choice.

Everyone has there own opinion.

I would rather watch UFC, its way more exciting. I still love the Jays though.

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