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Hellmuth's Mole

The Prophet 22;342045 wroteYou don't get a pass to the playoffs if the organization can't deal with the health of it's players and if things don't go their way. The team AA has put together as of now is not good enough to get to the Divisional Title in the AL East period and therefore have to count on a wildcard spot and I am saying a wild card spot will be somewhere around the 91 win mark at the lowest and that would still leave the Jays 5 games out.

But I will still say the Yankees will pass the Jays in total wins, even though your beloved bleacher report has the Jays as the 3rd best team and the Yankees as 16th. 20.00? and take the issue of the playoffs out of the equation.

And I will even give you a tip as to why it would be a bad bet from your stand point! What you and they (Jays) and everyone else fail to realize, the Yankees will buy another contract when a player goes down to keep their playoff hopes alive where the Jays say maybe next year.

Do we have a bet on who has a better record Jays u or Yankees me?

Prophet22

Already said I would take the over 86 for 20. I will bet another $20 that they win the AL East provided they hit the health numbers I laid out in the previous post. What say you?

The Prophet 22

No prevision. Do they bet the Yankees in the standings?

Hellmuth's Mole

The Prophet 22;342055 wroteNo prevision. Do they bet the Yankees in the standings?

With the injuries they had to endure last year not possible. With a semblance of health as I plainly laid out absolutely they will. If you can't understand/accept that, forget it.

The Prophet 22

QUOTE=Hellmuth's Mole;342029] - Buerhle, Johnson and Morrow start at least 28 games each or a total of 90 combined.[/QUOTE]

90 combined starts, what is the over/under translated into wins. Just out of curiosity.

Ok we will forget it. But you realize all teams have injuries. It is part of baseball. It is a matter of who deals with them the best that counts. Yankees have lost there starting 3rd baseman for the first 3 months and sign someone to replace him. They lose their closer, they promote from within. They lose a left fielder, they go to Seattle and Ichiro not to mention there starting pitching problems.

AA push his chips in to soon is all I am saying and the farm isn't there yet to make the moves to deal with the injuries that will come to save a promising season if the Jays are playing meaningful games in September.

The Prophet 22

Buzzzardd;342050 wroteOver on 86 wins for whatever you got left Brent.

Done and closed have updated you in my other post.

What would really suck for me is the Jays win 87 games and and still miss the playoffs by 7 games. lol

The Prophet 22

Travis D'Arnaud for RA Dickey trade in the works. Speculation on the future of New York Mets knuckleballer is heating up and the Toronto Blue Jays appear to be right in the thick of things.

This hurts my prediction. But is a great move!!

Prophet22

The Prophet 22

REPORT: BLUE JAYS SET TO DEAL D'ARNAUD IN PACKAGE FOR DICKEY. Can't believe this isn't garnering some kind of reaction today.

Jacen299

The Prophet 22;342180 wroteREPORT: BLUE JAYS SET TO DEAL D'ARNAUD IN PACKAGE FOR DICKEY. Can't believe this isn't garnering some kind of reaction today.

I don't like it. Knuckle baller at tail end of career. One good season. He's not a piece worth adding. I hope I'm wrong if trade happens.

djgolfcan

While I reserve judgement on the merits of such a move, I doubt this rumour is true. How many AA deals were speculated on prior to them happening ? I suspect its the Mets floating this, to try and up the price for Dickey.

compuease

djgolfcan;342184 wroteWhile I reserve judgement on the merits of such a move, I doubt this rumour is true. How many AA deals were speculated on prior to them happening ? I suspect its the Mets floating this, to try and up the price for Dickey.

While the exact deal is not complete this is very close but is likely to include more players, maybe 5-6..

Hobbes

djgolfcan;342184 wroteWhile I reserve judgement on the merits of such a move, I doubt this rumour is true. How many AA deals were speculated on prior to them happening ? I suspect its the Mets floating this, to try and up the price for Dickey.

That's what I was thinking.

The Prophet 22

If it is true could this be Esteban Loaiza for Michael Young all over again?

Hobbes

JP has confirmed the trade.

ViaTwitter wroteJust involved in a huge trade... Traded 4 blue M&M's and a color to be named, for a Purple G2 Gatorade and cash for a snicker bar! #rumors

The Prophet 22

djgolfcan;342184 wroteWhile I reserve judgement on the merits of such a move, I doubt this rumour is true. How many AA deals were speculated on prior to them happening ? I suspect its the Mets floating this, to try and up the price for Dickey.

According to Joel Sherman of the New York Post, the deal between the two clubs as it stands on Saturday, would see seven players switch teams, with Dickey, catcher Josh Thole and a prospect heading to Toronto for catching prospect Travis d'Arnaud, pitching prospect Noah Syndergaard, recently acquired catcher John Buck and another prospect.

Still a doubter?

Hobbes

Deal is done pending contract extension for Dickey.

mlb.com wrotethe New York Post reported that the deal will also send catcher Josh Thole and a prospect to Toronto for catchers Travis d'Arnaud and John Buck, right-handed pitching prospect Noah Syndergaard and a third prospect.

The Prophet 22

Assuming they get the contract extension, What would your pitching rotation be and how do you think we compare with the Tigers?

1. Mark Buehrle
2. Brandon Marrow
3. RA Dickey
4. Josh Johnson
5. Ricky Romero

JohnnieH

The Prophet 22;342329 wrote 1.Mark Buehrle
2.Brandon Marrow
3.RA Dickey
4.Josh Johnson
5.Ricky Romero

Wow. When you write it out, our rotation is staaacked!

Fingers crossed for a healthy season!

Milo

moose;342003 wroteAA scouting the prison leagues now?

Sure . . . where do you think the Indians found Vaughn?

Milo

Jacen299;342181 wroteI don't like it. Knuckle baller at tail end of career. One good season. He's not a piece worth adding. I hope I'm wrong if trade happens.

You're wrong. Dickey is a knuckleballer, which means he is no where CLOSE to the downs side of his career yet. Those schmos can throw until they are 50 if they don't lose the plot.

The Prophet 22

And these guys are competing for the Bullpen.

Drew Hutchison
Kyle Drabek
J.A. Happ
Aaron Laffey
Brad Lincoln
Carlos Villanueva
Sergio Santos
Darren Oliver
Casey Janssen
Steve Delabar
Luis Perez
Brandon Frasier

Barring some major injuries, I think the Jays now have a chance to get to 93 wins. looks like I will be paying out in September.

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