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betrthanphil;292605 wroteno 3bet folding cause only options are call or 3 bet shove.....3 bet shove is always the right answer here

isn't 20+bbs no antes a lil much?

betrthanphil

darbday;292606 wroteisn't 20+bbs no antes a lil much?

Not HU

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betrthanphil;292608 wroteNot HU

just realized ive never heard of hu poker without antes....how many bbs with antes are you shoving here?

philliivey

betrthanphil;292605 wroteno 3bet folding cause only options are call or 3 bet shove.....3 bet shove is always the right answer here

Thanks btp! I was kinda thinking this also but was not sure............:-\

I noticed after when I looked at the hand in hold em manager that it was 20 big blinds.

betrthanphil

Ummm in a 9 man you will rarely ever have more than 20bb. If I'm 3 betting hu in a 9 man almost always be a shove. In an mtt with a9ss, it depends on opponent kind of but prob 25bb but then again depends how many bbs are in play at the time too i guess.

philliivey

darbday;292604 wrotethen i think thats a waste of a9s ....instead of 3betting maybe you should just call....

and i could be wrong here but its the kinda way you want to think about hands that are too good to fold but you can't call a 4bet....

Ya, that's 1 area I am having problems with I think, but I can see both sides so I am or will be swaying back and forth here on this hand just to warn ya's.:)

philliivey

betrthanphil;292619 wroteUmmm in a 9 man you will rarely ever have more than 20bb. If I'm 3 betting hu in a 9 man almost always be a shove. In an mtt with a9ss, it depends on opponent kind of but prob 25bb but then again depends how many bbs are in play at the time too i guess.

I do this too, I thought this might be where I am going wrong a lot of times, but perhaps not!:)

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philliivey;292621 wroteYa, that's 1 area I am having problems with I think, but I can see both sides so I am or will be swaying back and forth here on this hand just to warn ya's.:)

no no just do what btp does tho ^-^

Vekked

Yea A9s is the nutter butters HU, probably just jam but I'd often 3-bet/call vs. aggro opponents. Calling is obv +EV but I think A9s is too good to just flat, gotta get more chips in pre.

philliivey

Vekked;292637 wroteYea A9s is the nutter butters HU, probably just jam but I'd often 3-bet/call vs. aggro opponents. Calling is obv +EV but I think A9s is too good to just flat, gotta get more chips in pre.

nutter butters hahahahaha, got to remember that one.:wink2:

Thanks for the post vekked.:)

GTA Poker

Certainly you know shoving ranges in this spot if you've been playing sngs for years?

FFS sign up for a training site already.

c'mon man

Richard~

these hands posted are a bit of a joke. if you're 3bet folding A9s with 21 BB's effective you just suck. 3 bet call is fine vs close to anyone and shove is fine to. I don't see why you're asking questions you already know the answer to

philliivey

People had bad day I see.

Nothing wrong with double checking.

Like come on u 2 should know that.

Richard~

you don't really need to doublecheck this stuff, A9s is the nuts heads up with this stack and the Q10 hand you already know, you shouldn't have to secondguess yourself

philliivey

lol ya you should! You have done it yourself plenty of times on here alone.

1) I did not post just for myself.

2) If you don't double check etc etc how do you know if what your doing is wrong and your just not aware of it.

Their is not 1 good reason to even argue this.

Richard~

replace Q10o with 95o and A9s with K8o and then we can talk. I mean you do claim to be a goodish player and you post the hands you just did. That's why people havn't taken you seriously in this thread

philliivey

Richard~;292693 wrotereplace Q10o with 95o and A9s with K8o and then we can talk. I mean you do claim to be a goodish player and you post the hands you just did. That's why people havn't taken you seriously in this thread

What thread are you reading?

Again there is nothing wrong with posting any of those hands or any hands really, I got serious answers from BTP, Vekked and darbday which helped me more than you know or obviously understand.

I got to talk poker with these guys so right there it's a win, also with a few more sng players on this forum now any talk is beneficial to all.:)

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Richard~;292679 wrotethese hands posted are a bit of a joke. if you're 3bet folding A9s with 21 BB's effective you just suck. 3 bet call is fine vs close to anyone and shove is fine to. I don't see why you're asking questions you already know the answer to

ya i gotta defend this again, and say we can't rip on people for posting questions....ive literally had at least 3 people pm to tell me they are too intimidated to post hh's on this site.....

phily wasn't going to 3bet fold this as far as i understood it....i implied it because i wanted to give a reason to flat which i thought was better...

what i don't understand...is how 2 middle level players come on (after 2 players that blow their game out of the water responded to the question) and rip on a guy for asking questions ....then can't understand why this guy doesn't know the answer to them ......

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Richard~;292693 wrotereplace Q10o with 95o and A9s with K8o and then we can talk. I mean you do claim to be a goodish player and you post the hands you just did. That's why people havn't taken you seriously in this thread

weird becasue vekked btp and me just took him serious ???

philliivey

Just a fyi, no I did not 3bet fold this hand, even though above I said I would against this player as I had good reads on him and possibly could have chipped away at him, I did 3 bet shove and he called and had 66, as usual I did not hit.

But to know you did the right thing is a huge boost even if the hand is "basic".:)

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