Belwood Hand

Wetts1012

blackmagicz;208045 wrote

1. Villian has AX and gets lucky on the river but then again for him to check the river makes no sense at all because he is not getting a bet out of a worse hand especially when you lead the turn and he flats.

With the line as played:

I check the river if Im the villain with an A here. If I lead Im pretty much playing faceup. Im hoping for HM to spaz into me.

I just dont think if you lead there anything but a chop calls (maybe an occasional random deuce).

blackmagicz

Wetts1012;208049 wroteWith the line as played:

I check the river if Im the villain with an A here. If I lead Im pretty much playing faceup. Im hoping for HM to spaz into me.

I just dont think if you lead there anything but a chop calls (maybe an occasional random deuce).

From a meta game perspective I do not think you are going to get anyone spazzing in this spot unless they have the nuts. 3 handed with both big stacks going at each other. If that was the case there would have been spazz on the turn not the river, unless both players are equally afraid of one another and can not access a proper hand range which sorta seems the case here based on action.

syphilaids

I agree with wetts to check to river if I'm villian. I've slowplayed trips this far no point in all of a sudden showing strength. Mind as well check and induce a bluff.

Hellmuth's Mole

When we last left our Hero he was agonizing over how badly he played this hand from start to finish and yet still had a good chance to take it down.

When he checked the river my heart screamed bet value and hope he has a overpair to the fives he might like. I was all ready to throw 15K in when I felt the chill of the thought of 5's. Then I actually settled on him having 52 and checking 2 pair on the turn because of the aces. This was without a doubt the worst played hand of the day for me but I checked and lost to J2o.

Couldn't get him to tell me if he would have folded to a value bet on the river. If you're holding that do you call?

Kristy

he calls all day obv.

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Kristy_Sea;208074 wrotehe calls all day obv.

+1

yup not only do i see guys call a paired deuce down but ive been hammered so many times with a deuce on the river its become a very scary card for me. so much that i bet the turn hard very often purely in fear of the other guy completing his set up twos. for me i would have pushed the straight i think even if he didn't have an ace. may not be the best play but i can't get the suckouts out of my head.

JimmyHo

Wetts1012;208047 wroteTricky. I check behind.

At this point youre only getting called by hands that beat you. I dont think you get paid off putting in a small V bet here.

Showdown value, ftw.

+1, couldn't have said it better. Did you mean A2o? This hand really wouldn't have played out any differently if you pushed on the flop or turn. 3 handed, not many players are folding trip Aces with a 2 kicker on that flop. Just an unlucky 3 outer on the river.

Hellmuth's Mole

J2o as posted.

He folds to a shove on the flop and most likely turn as well. I let him get there on the river because I got greedy with a chance to make big money with the turn. As I said it was badly played all around.

The more I think about it I like actyper's min raise suggestion on the flop bet. Definitely sets up a chance at the shove call on the turn.

JimmyHo

Hellmuth's Mole;208200 wroteJ2o as posted.

Yes, I need to read. Runna, runna, chicken dinna.

blackmagicz

Hellmuth's Mole;208200 wroteJ2o as posted.

He folds to a shove on the flop and most likely turn as well. I let him get there on the river because I got greedy with a chance to make big money with the turn. As I said it was badly played all around.

The more I think about it I like actyper's min raise suggestion on the flop bet. Definitely sets up a chance at the shove call on the turn.

Yeah that makes sense if you are able to recognize villian is not playing AX fast. He can't call any shoves on the turn with his hand (even if you assign him a range of a mid PP), there are just too many things at this point in the tournament that a player is thinking about to call him to call off light.

syphilaids

Hellmuth's Mole;208072 wroteWhen we last left our Hero he was agonizing over how badly he played this hand from start to finish and yet still had a good chance to take it down.

When he checked the river my heart screamed bet value and hope he has a overpair to the fives he might like. I was all ready to throw 15K in when I felt the chill of the thought of 5's. Then I actually settled on him having 52 and checking 2 pair on the turn because of the aces. This was without a doubt the worst played hand of the day for me but I checked and lost to J2o.

Couldn't get him to tell me if he would have folded to a value bet on the river. If you're holding that do you call?

IF this idiot can float you with bottom pair on that board he's not folding when he improves.

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