Bristol St. hand

Kristy

not crazy about the c/r..

as I said, this guys cbet is near 100%, I expect the other players to figure out that

a: He never checks and that is scary
b: when he check raises we are fucked harder than Jenna Jameson

What are your hopes and dreams with the $4 bet? (I like this bet btw)

Hellmuth's Mole

Kristy_Sea;204685 wrote
What are your hopes and dreams with the $4 bet? (I like this bet btw)

I'm hoping someone sees it as weakness and fires a raise at it. If I'm in MP with a semi-bluffable hand I'd take a shot at moving that tight of a player off of it....

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Kristy_Sea;204682 wroteI'm asking you to play it as best you can with HIS image, obviously..I already know how the mega-nit plays it..I was there.:D

wow this is a contraversial thread, im thinking about reporting you...

ok i was wondering this too and erased my comment in this regard. with that image, and my playing style i am thinking i would play the same way. its likely ill be pegged with that hand and that everyone will assume ill push a re raise even all in. ive left myself a tough decision if i get raised though, because its possible many people would bluff at me since they are loose and i am somewhat weak tight. with less people i might shove but there are 5 in the pot an maybe more at the table.

then i go tell cameron diaz that i found some sort of portal in my office.

westside8

Kristy_Sea;204677 wroteHe hasn't played a hand remember, so roughly this.. everyone else is equal to or over him.

Shrugs..sometimes nits don't buy in for max.

Kristy

I'm sure it has happened, but I've never seen one of the "regulars against whom we've played dozens or hundreds of hours against" do this at a Bristol..as you well know.

If it makes it easier, I'll add a *kindly presume that I will tell you if they do something weird* disclaimer

Hellmuth's Mole

darbday;204688 wrote
then i go tell cameron diaz that i found some sort of portal in my office.

Lol, Being John Malkovich reference ITT.

Kristy

Hellmuth's Mole;204687 wroteI'm hoping someone sees it as weakness and fires a raise at it. If I'm in MP with a semi-bluffable hand I'd take a shot at moving that tight of a player off of it....

There are no semi-bluffable hands on this unconnected board.

Let's think about this..give him JJ or better aqs or better...(yes, this is the range..don't argue)

If we're this 'raising MP' 18 fold and 20 smoke us, I don't think a raise with air on an A high board is a good play here.

Hellmuth's Mole

Those are perspectives of different players on my originally proposed play. Player A (nit leading out weak) hopes someone takes on the Player B (raise nit off hand) action. Then I repop with tptk.

BTW the semi-bluff play is not a good card play but it's a plausible "player" play....if you're certain he's as tight as you made him to be and he leads out with a $3 bet.

Kristy

its because we're certain of his impeccable preflop hand selection that it is NOT a plausible player play..

King high board, I'm with you..but A high it is too break even. You could float the flop and take it when he can't double barrel for less, if you really want this pot.

Hellmuth's Mole

Kristy_Sea;204698 wroteits because we're certain of his impeccable preflop hand selection that it is NOT a plausible player play..

If hand selection is impeccable how do 5 players call his raise pre?

Kristy

to suck out on him.

MickeyHoldem

I shouldn't have to work this hard to get all the relevant info, so correct me if I'm wrong please...

I'm a known out-of-position tight-ass nit, holding AK in a six-way $9 pot vs. a bunch of loosey-goosey limers that called my raise from the blinds, and everyone has correctly guess my range to be JJ+ & AK... Good so far?... I'm leading for $9, hoping to take it down now! You expect me to c-bet here so c/r likely fails and I'm not letting 5 players see the turn for free so someone can hit bottom two!

Any callers and I'll re-evaluate on the turn!

Any raise... with half my stack in... Let's rock!

JimmyHo

what does he expect the other player's to do if he bets or checks? with such a tight image, he should likely check and hope someone else tries to steal the pot. If he bets, likely all will fold, not unless they are ahead (2 pair +).

Kristy

I don't know if you meant that to sound as ignorant as it came off Mickey..

..but this is what I hate about this forum, everything relevant in your post except his being in the blinds, not just LP was included in or could be easily surmised from the OP.
Edit: Actually you should've gotten that he was in the blinds from the OP as well, since he acted after all the limpers and first on the flop

I love how the people reading this will sit there wasting time looking for some sort of gap in the OP instead of just answering the fucking question based on the information presented. The same thing happened to Nik's thread. Live poker does not have an HH I can copy and paste. (Mickey did answer, this part does not refer to him)

And back on topic, betting pot so that someone can't hit two pair or trips is pretty lame..do you often bet 100% on 10% draws? Or just when you're in really good shape and a caller would be nice?

Hellmuth's Mole

MickeyHoldem;204702 wrote
Any raise... with half my stack in... Let's rock!

This obv, for you and me. But mega nits tend to see monsters under the bed.

And it would be quarter of your stack in. Little different than half.

EDIT: Post facto it's easy, but this pot has to be raised more than 3X BB pre from the blinds. Makes it much easier to bet the flop appropriately when hit and against less players and with tighter ranges. Also pot is much more palatable to villians.

Kristy

Kristy_Sea;204674 wrotehe'll c-bet nearly 100% otf, but he'll never two barrel with like ..JJ or call a RR without a meca-ace.

pokerJAH;204706 wrotewhat does he expect the other player's to do if he bets or checks? with such a tight image, he should likely check and hope someone else tries to steal the pot. If he bets, likely all will fold, not unless they are ahead (2 pair +).

We're betting, it is what we would normally do, so how much do you think is best? A check/call or check/raise is going to shut down the other player's shop instantly without a monster.

It makes no sense to check/call or check/raise imo.

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ok i might even over bet the pot. i am cleary stating i have ak and im willing to go all in. but if they suspect aa to id go for a pot sized bet. still not sure i understand.

Graham

I would probably follow up with a bet of around $4-$5. Reason is it makes you look pretty strong trying to get other people to call, but also doesn't commit a huge amount of your stack if you get check raised. Also, it will hopefully get all the people that might be set mining (if any) to fold and won't give anyone free cards.

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Kristy_Sea;204678 wrotewat?

Why would you want to do this? Plz explain.

i thought i was using the mindset of someone of a weakish tight player, then i added new comments when i realized i get play malkavich style.

Kristy

I think $4-$5 is about right, it does a lot of things.

like..
A: it gives the option for our loose table that wants to play, to convince themselves we're c-betting and do something stupid.

B: it gives our future 1/2 pot c-bets teeth if we get to showdown now.

TURN
board is something like A496 rainbow..

What is your play now if:
A: you'd bet $4
B: you'd bet pot
C: you'd bet $6

And got 1 caller

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