Double or Nothing?

Vandal

I'm curious if there are any good resources for the Double or Nothing style SnG that is becoming popular on Pacific.

The ICM is invaluable, but I was hoping for something a little more comprehesive... Anyone have any links or basic strategy?

Thanks!

philliivey

not sure about resources but just try and be patient and try to remember it's not about winning 1 hand, it is about getting to top 5 if 10 man game, or top 3 if 6 man(which stars needs to get), try to pick up on opportunities to grow your chip stack so your in good shape when it gets to bingofest time if it is a passive table:)

they are good to get a great hourly rate if you can multi table well, but i think stick with regular sit n go's to build a bankroll.

Graham

Pokerstars added these recently also. Seems like a good way to make money if you can consistently cash top 5.

Voodoo

Loving them so far on Pokerstars. Have cashed in 18 of 20 in the $20 and $50 buyins.

moose

Graham;166360 wrotePokerstars added these recently also. Seems like a good way to make money if you can consistently cash top 5.

And they cut their rake on them, especially the turbos.

MarcoGD

I'll have to give these a try. Do they play like reg SnG's?

westside8

MarcoGD;166383 wroteI'll have to give these a try. Do they play like reg SnG's?

Except top 5 pays with double the buy-in (minus rake) and bottom 5 gets nothing. Great for FPP whoring.

AcidJoe

On game added them too seem very soft in the one's I"ve played. Patience is the key

JohnnieH

AcidJoe;166957 wroteOn game added them too seem very soft in the one's I"ve played. Patience is the key

+1

Anybody would knows PLO must play these...so much dead money.

blackmagicz

Greatest things ever invented for nits like me. I get up to 3500 chips and sit out :)

actyper

wtf I suck at these. 2 wins 3 losses. Need to get nittier.

westside8

How the hell am I doing better in $50 and $20? Small sample size though

WaterLooser

westside8;167263 wroteHow the hell am I doing better in $50 and $20? Small sample size though

They prob know where the fold button is. I got called AIPF by A5o, I had AKs, flop A95 obv.

I am currently only +2 buyins, with a sample size of 6.

philliivey

qft....... does anyne know what a fold button is nowadays, christ:rolleyes:

WaterLooser;167267 wroteThey prob know where the fold button is. I got called AIPF by A5o, I had AKs, flop A95 obv.

I am currently only +2 buyins, with a sample size of 6.

BBC Z

FYI a 'Double or Nothing' tournament is the same thing as a satellite. Same rules apply.

Wolffhound

I know, its one hand, but, this happens all the time....
Dude is sitting out, one orbit, game is over and everyone else Doubles up...
instead, tool does the following and sitout cashes.

PokerStars Game #21478074334: Tournament #116320062, $5.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/10/25 8:28:09 ET
Table '116320062 1' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: Wolffhound (940 in chips)
Seat 4: lilorose (1005 in chips)
Seat 6: LaSilva 666 (6330 in chips)
Seat 7: QBCOACH29 (4890 in chips)
Seat 8: MrEBET (350 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: shivsmababy (1485 in chips)
Wolffhound: posts the ante 25
lilorose: posts the ante 25
LaSilva 666: posts the ante 25
QBCOACH29: posts the ante 25
MrEBET: posts the ante 25
shivsmababy: posts the ante 25
QBCOACH29: posts small blind 125
MrEBET: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wolffhound [Th 7c]
shivsmababy: raises 1210 to 1460 and is all-in
Wolffhound: folds
lilorose: folds
LaSilva 666: calls 1460
QBCOACH29: folds
MrEBET: folds
*** FLOP *** [2c Ad Kd]
*** TURN *** [2c Ad Kd] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [2c Ad Kd 5c] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shivsmababy: shows [8c 8d] (a pair of Eights)
LaSilva 666: shows [Jc As] (a pair of Aces)
LaSilva 666 collected 3445 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3445 | Rake 0
Board [2c Ad Kd 5c Qc]
Seat 3: Wolffhound folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: lilorose folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: LaSilva 666 (button) showed [Jc As] and won (3445) with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: QBCOACH29 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: MrEBET (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: shivsmababy showed [8c 8d] and lost with a pair of Eights

kostitsyn1489

Wolffhound;167494 wroteI know, its one hand, but, this happens all the time....
Dude is sitting out, one orbit, game is over and everyone else Doubles up...
instead, tool does the following and sitout cashes.

PokerStars Game #21478074334: Tournament #116320062, $5.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/10/25 8:28:09 ET
Table '116320062 1' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: Wolffhound (940 in chips)
Seat 4: lilorose (1005 in chips)
Seat 6: LaSilva 666 (6330 in chips)
Seat 7: QBCOACH29 (4890 in chips)
Seat 8: MrEBET (350 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: shivsmababy (1485 in chips)
Wolffhound: posts the ante 25
lilorose: posts the ante 25
LaSilva 666: posts the ante 25
QBCOACH29: posts the ante 25
MrEBET: posts the ante 25
shivsmababy: posts the ante 25
QBCOACH29: posts small blind 125
MrEBET: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wolffhound [Th 7c]
shivsmababy: raises 1210 to 1460 and is all-in
Wolffhound: folds
lilorose: folds
LaSilva 666: calls 1460
QBCOACH29: folds
MrEBET: folds
*** FLOP *** [2c Ad Kd]
*** TURN *** [2c Ad Kd] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [2c Ad Kd 5c] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shivsmababy: shows [8c 8d] (a pair of Eights)
LaSilva 666: shows [Jc As] (a pair of Aces)
LaSilva 666 collected 3445 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3445 | Rake 0
Board [2c Ad Kd 5c Qc]
Seat 3: Wolffhound folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: lilorose folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: LaSilva 666 (button) showed [Jc As] and won (3445) with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: QBCOACH29 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: MrEBET (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: shivsmababy showed [8c 8d] and lost with a pair of Eights

Yeah it keeps happeing... With 6 guys left, i was on the button 2nd in stack with like 5000, the guy on the small blind was all in due to the small blind and the guy on the BB who looked really stupid was high stack. Nobody calls and i have J10 suited so i call thats a good hand vs a guy in the dark like the guy in the small blind, but the guy in the BB makes raise to 1000 which is 4 times the BB so i fold, i guess he's got something good to raise like that and i have no raison to risk anything at this point. He ends up having K-6 the guy on the SB has A8 both pairs, i make the straight, but i folded so the guy survive. What the hell was he thinking about raising there...

DennisG

I gave up playing these (though, I haven't checked out the stars one that gives you the big overlay)...even if you win 80% of them..your hourly rate sucks. 11 bucks to play x 10 is 110 bucks for 10 games...you win 8/10..collect 160 bucks.. at 45 min each that is what? about...8 hrs? play time..for 50 bucks.

This is of course..providing you care about your time playing...lol

mynick71

I like playing the turbo double ups. As for strategy I only play premium hands in the early going always with a raise and limp with small or medium pairs trying to hit my set. Try not to waste to many of your chips by playing too many pots. With about 6 or 7 players left hopefully you have accumulated a few chips by now and continue to play good hands, if not look for a spot to push all in, unless your opponent has a very strong hand they can't call and you pick up the blinds and antes. I only do this in very late position and no one has limped into the pot.

One thing that really bugs me is that the big stacks are always giving there chips away to the small stacks. And not calling when they have the pot odds to do so.

Wolffhound

Ihaveyourname;170665 wroteI gave up playing these (though, I haven't checked out the stars one that gives you the big overlay)...even if you win 80% of them..your hourly rate sucks. 11 bucks to play x 10 is 110 bucks for 10 games...you win 8/10..collect 160 bucks.. at 45 min each that is what? about...8 hrs? play time..for 50 bucks.

This is of course..providing you care about your time playing...lol

You are playing one at a time? If you are playing 4 tables, at 45 minutes, you are making 25/hr based on your winning 8/10. I went to Brock...so, the math is weak and quick. But, if you are winning 8/10, I'd still be playing them if I was you.