Poker Question

zunni74

tonypapa1;162026 wroteWell now that I got somewhat of an answer, here is the way the hand went down.

There were originally 8 callers preflop.
Big blind raised to 2 bets.

I was in the small blind position; person to my right was on the button.
When the bet came around to him at 2 bets, he was reluctant to calling but begrudgingly threw the extra bet in. I picked up on this and since the limit is low, I three bet it to be a dick.

The big blind obviously 4 bet it and got 2 other people to fold plus the guy to my right sitting in the big blind. Who was mad at me at this point.....mainly because I was snickering.

The flop came:

6h Kd 8c

Turn was a 9s and river was 2h

Winning hand: Kc5c, (Original raiser had JJ, I think I was holding T4o, lol)

To which this point, the person sitting in the big blind told me that he would have won the pot with 8d6d. So I told him he should have called since he was getting 13-1 on his money. This is how this arguement began.

And if one of his oppt's was playing 92o? or K6o?? or K8? or ... Talk about a beat. Results oriented thinking isn't the way to go here...

But thanks for the rest of the story...

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zunni74;162037 wroteFrankly, the only board that can make your hand is 2 pair or up. And with that many players there is usually a chance that someone has made a better 2 pair (I see 2 pair over 2 pair all the time at the casino), a set, or a straight (689 on the board and 7T or 57 kills you (for an example)), larger flushes etc.

I just don't see how you get paid enough of the time to justify the 2 bet call. It just seems like a bad proposition and not +ev enough to take a chance on it.

I probably would have folded it when it came around to me the first time though, especially with more than 3 people, but I disagree.

If you get a nut straight or a straight flush, you will win, and make a crap load of money. You can still get a nut straight with 6-8. The only way someone can beat you is to tie. Maybe they do hit two pairs, trips or a set. No one will think you had this hand and will likely max the bets out. I think I might like the hand in no-limit better if it hits, though. Again, hitting has to be the winner, not just hitting a pair or two pairs.

Either way, you're right, the odds of you actually making a hand that is giong to rake in more than enough to be worth it are nearly 0, but given his situation on whether or not to call at the time we are talking about, it makes sense.

I fully agree that two pairs in this situation is not a good hand. There are many other two paired hands that will win eaisly. Even if someone did hit a set, it easily beats him. I would be reluctant to see the river with just two pairs assuming that it kept getting raised. You're just asking for trouble in that situation.

So, to summarize my thoughts, I would have folded this hand right when I saw it if I was playing 6+ players. I may limp in with 5-3 players and I would raise it heads up (I have a strategy that works heads up, and I love it!!!!).

If I was in the same situation as him, I would probably have to bleed some chips and play the hand in hopes of hitting. If I didn't hit a hut hand, or close to it, I would likely fold to any big bets. However, in limit you might get sucked to the river, since you will always call that small bet.

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