Tournament Strategy advice needed.
Hi,
I'm a newbie at tournaments.
I played my second tournament in the last 6 years.
Usually I play cash games.
I figured I'd start with the easiest tournament I could find.
This is an 80 person $80 tournament at Brantford.
Hand 1
I chip to to over 63,000, 4x my buyin, I'm the chip leader. I've raised the last 3 hands in a row. My table image is immaculate, A+ I've won every big hand I've played. I'm just pounding the table non-stop and they are in "Take it Doyle" mode. Mostly they limp, I bet , they call. I C-bet the flop, they fold.
UTG I raise 3x, UTG+1 3 bets me for half his stack. it gets folded around to me.
Wow!
First 3 bet someone besides me has made.
I have AsKs.
He's bet a bit more than a min raise but it's about half his stack so it's the same as all in pretty much.
I don't think they have gotten their balls, I think they have picked up a hand... Do you shove/call?
I'm a newbie at tournaments.
I played my second tournament in the last 6 years.
Usually I play cash games.
I figured I'd start with the easiest tournament I could find.
This is an 80 person $80 tournament at Brantford.
Hand 1
I chip to to over 63,000, 4x my buyin, I'm the chip leader. I've raised the last 3 hands in a row. My table image is immaculate, A+ I've won every big hand I've played. I'm just pounding the table non-stop and they are in "Take it Doyle" mode. Mostly they limp, I bet , they call. I C-bet the flop, they fold.
UTG I raise 3x, UTG+1 3 bets me for half his stack. it gets folded around to me.
Wow!
First 3 bet someone besides me has made.
I have AsKs.
He's bet a bit more than a min raise but it's about half his stack so it's the same as all in pretty much.
I don't think they have gotten their balls, I think they have picked up a hand... Do you shove/call?
Comments
Fast forward.
We are at the final table, I'm 4th in chips.
10 people, tournement pays 9.
One girl is collecting $$ from everyone assuming everyone will put in $$ for the bubble person.
I say, "Lets put $$ in for a last longer bet!"
I say, No, I'm not giving $$ for the bubble person.
Ist hand I get it all in with the chip leader 88<AQ and I'm out.
Details on the 88 / AQ hand? (Misstep or misread?)
The hand you went out on is curious. I get that in a cash game, you take the smallest edges (52/48) and push them all day long, but in a tournament, at the bubble, against a stack that can take you out, I generally do not risk my tournament life.
I declined paying the bubble at a Brantford tournament a month or two ago and then cracked queens and kings in the first two hands and won the tournament. Fwiw, I am 3/3 for winning tournaments where I refused to pay bubble.
So for me, it's usually a -EV proposition but it think it's bad Karma and bad manners not to play along.
And I also agree that 88 is an odd spot to bust out at that stage, unless the flop came down AQ8 or something and you then got it all in.
tapatalk puts this here to annoy YOU
If there is no bubble prize then you have more fold equity or fear equity.
I back up anybody that refuses, but if everybody else but me has eagerly agreed, I sometimes cave in to the "but we always do it here" peer pressure if the shortstacks are players that I know and if I want these bubble donators to keep playing and donating in the future. From now on, I think I'll be more like ReefAquarium & hiphopopotamus and JUST SAY NO.
Dealer said, "We always give $10 to the bubble"
I replied, "You go ahead and do that"
I noticed: nobody ever 3 bet without AA or KK ; Nobody folds to a 3 bet ; Nobody else thought this was retarded.
UTG I raise (4th hands in a row, everyone folds) ... I get 3 bet shoved for about 2.5x my raise size ... I have AKs ... should I call the all in?
Are they adjusting to the fact that I am raising about 50% of my hands and I've raised 4 hands in a row or did they just pick up a hand????
So far I've been completely card dead, But they limp->I raise-> they call-> I cbet->they fold!!! Has made me the chip leader for the tournament.
Anyone who's not a brain dead moron should realize that my raising standards are "Any black card or any red card", Right?
Both times they had AA
wow.
It seems that people are countering my aggressive strategy by 3 betting with AA and KK.
Is this what usually happens in tournaments at brantford?
My preference not to pay the bubble doesn't have anything to do with being petty or cheap nor the size of buy-in. I don't get why anyone would want to eliminate a part of the tournament where you should really have a large edge if you know how to play it properly.
Now ReefAquarium understands why I love live tournament$ $o much!
Why don't we all hold hands and sing Kumbaya?
Why don't we pay bubble+1 too?
Why don't we all just chop on the first hand and get our money back and let the casino keep their juice?
Why don't people just accept the payout structure as it is given and not play if they don't like it?
You know what is special about the bubble? Nothing. What's cheap and petty is the bubble thinking that somehow means that they deserve some money for 'getting close' and feeling aggrieved if they don't get a bubble prize.
They didn't get far enough to make the money and neither did any of the other already eliminated players.
I will accept a bubble prize 100% of the time when I am the shortest stack, and 0% of the time when I am not. Karma can suck it.