Dave' Scharf's Book: Question
Hi Dave, everyone,
Dave, how 'beginner' oriented is your book? I find your posts very useful, and enjoyable, and am considering buying your book. However, I probably don't want it if it is more for beginners. If I have (and have read) SuperSystem 1 and 2, Hellmuth's book, carsons holdem book, and caro's book of tells, should I bother with your book?
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Thanks a lot Dave
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Dave, how 'beginner' oriented is your book? I find your posts very useful, and enjoyable, and am considering buying your book. However, I probably don't want it if it is more for beginners. If I have (and have read) SuperSystem 1 and 2, Hellmuth's book, carsons holdem book, and caro's book of tells, should I bother with your book?
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Thanks a lot Dave
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Comments
It was 9.99 plus an extra 10% off with a member discount. With tax, under 10 bucks.
It is a bit of a beginner book. But there are nuggets in there. I read it through once. It is not a long read. I'll read it again. It is very well written and easy to understand. I've read a lot of poker books. This one would have been better to read earlier on I think. It covers limit hold'em and 7-card stud as I recall. I didn't spend much time on the 7-card stud part.
I really like the starting hands guide. Very simple and easy to remember. A well-known wise ass here poo-poos the idea of starting hand guides but I think most will find it helpful. I'm not sure why you'd even need a jenga block to remember it. Q, 9-9 is all you really need to remember.
Dave, you must be up to 41,010 by now.
If that remark was directed towards me, I would like to know you who you are and what cause I have given you to say that I am "A well known wise ass"?. As a matter of fact I know that we have only met once and that you don't know me at all. So, if upon our meeting at Brent's tournament I have done something to make you call me a "wise ass", I would like to know what it was.
Nowhere did I "poo-poo" the idea of the starting hands that Dave listed, as they have worked wonders for me at the LL games at Rama, you should go back and read my post about the Jenga trip. There were however 2 gentlemen at my table that remarked that they were to tight. The quote was "They both agreed that the hands were to tight for LL at Rama." Which happened in a conversation between themselves. Here is the link so you can re-read it.
http://www.pokerforum.ca/forum/index.php?topic=5071.0
And as for the JENGA Block, it is a reminder to me not to stray from the hands, as my memory is fine, it is my impulse that needs to be checked. And it also works to my advantage because some of the other "wise ass's" out there seem to think that a JENGA Block makes for easy pickins.
Rob, I believe that pkrfce9 may have been referring to another member of the forum as the "well-known wise ass". If you re-read the post, you will find a period between this statement and the reference to the jenga block. I believe that these are in fact two different thoughts about two different things that were mentioned in the same paragraph.
I gotta say that Dave's starting hand guide is easy to commit to memory. I also think that you have found a physical form of reminding yourself of the guide to keep away "Rammy". I say, bravo dude, if it feels good do it. (This is not intended to be man flirting)
Finally, if I am out of line here, I apologize. I just want everyone to get along.
I made reference the jenga story because I thought it was funny.
Thanks, boxcard, for jumping in there...
I thought we got on well at Brent's tourney. I believe we have different playing styles but I have no problem with that.
Cheers.
I picked up the book, and consider myself to be an advanced low-limit player. I personally think Dave's book was worth getting. Sure there is a good amount of material that an intermediate or advanced low-limit player can skim over quickly, but I still think that there several good ideas for even high level poker players to think about.
In fact, I spent a lot of time going over his starting hand guide which is intended for beginning players. The purpose (for me) was not that I felt that my own starting hand guide needed tweaking, but I really got to thinking about why I play certain hands, and why a beginner should probably not be playing some of the hands that I do play which were not on Dave's list. (For example, a beginning LL player will never fold Kd 7d in a million years if the flop comes K93 with two clubs and no diamond.) This really shed a lot of light on the exact kinds of errors I need to avoid on the flop when I start venturing farther outside the "safer" range of starting hands.
ScottyZ