last one....preflop spot

betrthanphil

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500.00/t3000.00 Blinds - 8 players - View hand 1642584
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
MP1: t34469.00 11.49 BBs
MP2: t141437.00 47.15 BBs
CO: t77242.00 25.75 BBs
BTN: t155569.00 51.86 BBs
SB: t60953.00 20.32 BBs
Hero (BB): t89683.00 29.89 BBs
UTG: t33313.00 11.10 BBs
UTG+1: t65039.00 21.68 BBs
Pre Flop: (t4500) Hero is BB with T A :club:
5 folds, BTN raises to t6000, SB raises to t60653 hero??

Ok so Button raises every button...we have all been playing together for awhile. THis is final 2 tables of the 109r. Previous hand folded to sb who raise folded to BB jam. Same 2 players here. SB was up over 150k was very aggro (HS reg).

Richard~

seems like you're beating a lot of the hands SB is shoving for value, what's the downside to putting the chips in here?

Unknown

if the button raises every button this is a snap shove?

Richard~

darbday wrote: »

if the button raises every button this is a snap shove?

I think you missed the reshove from the SB there

Unknown

Richard~ wrote: »

I think you missed the reshove from the SB there

whats sbs ship range vs but any two open?

Richard~

darbday wrote: »

whats sbs ship range vs but any two open?

what kind of a question is that? that depends A LOT on your villain

Unknown

Richard~ wrote: »

what kind of a question is that? that depends A LOT on your villain

betrthnphil: SB was up over 150k was very aggro (HS reg).

Vekked

super close, I'm not sure tbh, probably call with the dynamic I guess but I'd like to have a better idea on how often this guy reships/with what type of hands

Richard~

darbday wrote: »

betrthnphil: SB was up over 150k was very aggro (HS reg).

yeah, but a lot of it is down to table dynamics. I curious, would be expect button to fold ajo and maybe aqo to our shove?

betrthanphil

ummm I generally think when someone 3 bet shoves, or even open shoves and takes it down, the next hand if they do it, its more likely to be a weaker hand as they got the "rush" from doing it the first time and thought it will work again. Not completely the way I wanted to word that haha but its fine for now. I try to get inside villains head a lot and these where these thoughts come from. Because I know when I shove and take a pot down pre, the next hand can be rather weak but look nice....89s or k8s and my first instict is to jam again, before I hold myself back as I know its not that optimal in some spots....here I would expect him to shove those hands though.

I snap rejammed and he had J9os.....turn brought my nut flush draw but he binked a 9 on the river lol

betrthanphil

Richard~ wrote: »

yeah, but a lot of it is down to table dynamics. I curious, would be expect button to fold ajo and maybe aqo to our shove?

I dont expect him to fold AQ on the button as I never would.....few hands later....

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500.00/t3000.00 Blinds - 7 players - View hand 1642995
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
UTG: t129954.00 43.32 BBs
UTG+1: t69742.00 23.25 BBs
MP: t176838.00 58.95 BBs
CO: t61501.00 20.50 BBs
Hero (BTN): t66160.00 22.05 BBs
SB: t23732.00 7.91 BBs
BB: t129778.00 43.26 BBs
Pre Flop: (t4500) Hero is BTN with Q A :club:
4 folds, Hero raises to t6000, SB raises to t23100, BB raises to t129478, Hero calls t60160 all in, SB calls t632 all in
Flop: (t156052) 9 :diamond: 7 :diamond: 8 :club: (3 players - 2 are all in)
Turn: (t156052) 3 (3 players - 2 are all in)
River: (t156052) 4 (3 players - 2 are all in)

dont know why it didnt shove sb and bb hands here.....sb had J10os and bb A10os

Vekked

^that hand's super standard, way diff stack setup than the OP

betrthanphil

haha i know but tried to sneak one by you :P

Meistro

It's a fold pre even in limit.

Richard~

I'm pretty sure I 4bet this pre 100% in limit <.<

betrthanphil

Meistro wrote: »

It's a fold pre even in limit.

nits gonna nit...