Rediculous poker ruling

Sunday I was playing at Fallsview sitting 6/12 I believe. And some guys were telling me how earlier in the day they were sitting the 55 NL and had a really interesting hand. Player A is betting big all the way to the turn where he went all in. Player B called on an open-ender and missed it on the river. Player B goes "I missed it you win", the dealer apparently didnt hear it and didnt see the missed straight, he thought he hit it and thus sent the chips to player B. Player B begins to stack the chips and the whole table erupts saying Player A had infact won the pot.

According to the casino once any part of the pot is stacked into the players stack, its now his.

Instead of being an honest player and realizing he had lost the hand, player b kept the pot without even chopping it or giving back Player A's money.

What do you think about that shit?!

Comments

  • That makes no sense ... if player A hasn't mucked his cards and has the winning hand ... he should get the money period.

    Cause if that's the rule next time i play i'll make sure i buy myself a dealer on the way in ... listen wait for the biggest pot of the nite and even if i don't have cards just push the chips to me and make sure they get in there tight.
  • If that story's true, then player A should be calling up the Ontario Gaming Council and firing up a formal complaint.
  • i think it has something to do with once the dealer awards the pot, they cant take it back i beleive
  • this same thing happened to me
    i was all in on the turn with QQ
    the board showed Q 7 8 2
    two player remained betting in to a side pot
    the river was a 7
    player 1 shows KK
    player 2 shows AQ

    the dealer saw KK
    and the dealer pushed the entire main pot and side pot to the KK
    i freak out,call pit the pit over he determined that i was the winner and an error was made

    the casino froze the table and went to the camera to determine how much i was entitled to
    1/2 hour later everything was sorted out and play resumed.
  • yubyub1978 wrote:
    i freak out.
    ...Nice move, I like freaking out in this situation. I would have played it the same way.

    stp
  • stpboy wrote:
    ...Nice move, I like freaking out in this situation. I would have played it the same way.

    stp
    considering my options it was far and away the most solid play on this hand
    i thought about a temper tantrum followed by curling up in the fetal position in the center of the table, but i think i made the right move
  • The guy apparently took it really well. Talked to the pit boss, accepted the ruling, rebought and continued to play.
  • This happened twice at Fallsview so far at my table. Each time the wrong person got the pot. Someone needs to complain when it happenes again. I'm thinking of writing a letter to the OLGC or whatever


    Red
  • Even if that is the Casino's rule - one thinks they should still pay you out of house money seeing they are the ones that screwed up!
  • Goms27 wrote:
    Even if that is the Casino's rule - one thinks they should still pay you out of house money seeing they are the ones that screwed up!


    that's what i think for sure, and you'd think that's whay they would do, usually casinos are pretty good about making sure everyone gets their due, and really good about making sure they don't make mistakes or correcting ones that are made. Especially Fallsview whose poker room is new, they should want to make a good impression
  • First of all that was a horrible ruling. If it were me I would do several things. Complain the the casino management and to the Ontario gaming. If nothing comes of it I would never play there again. If this is the only place I could play I would not tip the dealers until I had got back all the money I lost and inform the dealers why I'm not tipping.
  • You need to be sure you personnally tell all the dealers why you aren't tipping them.
    That'll teach'em!!

    Here are some rules about this type of situation. Easily found on the internet.

    m. Any player or floorperson who sees an error about to be made in awarding a pot has an ethical obligation to speak up.
    n. The responsibility for properly identifying a hand at the showdown is shared by the dealer, player who owns the hand, and to some extent the other players in the game. However, the higher the stakes, the greater the presumed competence of the player. Consequently, he has greater responsibility for protecting his own interests in the pot.

    q. A player who wishes to contest the ownership of a pot must do so at the time the pot is awarded. A pot that has been awarded without an immediate challenge belongs to the player possessing it.
    r. The floorperson has the authority to calculate the size of a mis-awarded pot and remove the proper amount of money from a player's stack provided attention was called to the error at the time it was made.

    Yes, the dealers are paid to do the job to the best of their ability. However, it's your money ...keep your eyes open.
  • In a limit game correcting this is quite easy, and i guarantee you that's what would happen ... i think the NL part made it more diffucult ... still they should have gone to the camera and dealt with it
  • In a 5/10 limit game at the Ex a dealer once pushed chips over to me when I didn't win a pot. The dealer missed that the other player hit a straight on the river, and the other player initially didn't call it before his cards were swept away. It happened pretty fast and so even though I saw his cards I thought I must have misread the board. Someone next to the other player mentioned it, and the dealer said the rule was that once I had started stacking the chips it was too late.. it was my pot.

    I just gave it back to the other player though... I need the good karma, and I couldn't stomach taking someone's money that way. He bought me a beer at least :)

    I never release my hand until I see a better hand. I also don't chuck my cards face up into the middle of the table at the showdown, but flip them over in front of me and keep a hand there to protect them until they either push the chips over, or I see the better hand.
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