Being a girl in a poker room.....

talonchick

Dave,

I think you should consider having a girl write what it is like being in a poker room...both online and live. I have been playing just over 2 years and have found that being female has had alot of advantages. Any ideas on that?

Adrienne

Chugs

I find most of the time, most guys don't give female players enough credit. They try to play testosterone poker against them, and i'll put it this way any player male or female can take advantage of that.

talonchick

Annie Duke wrote it the best...

She said something to the effect of....there are two types of men that smart women will make money off. There are the players that check to you to be a gentleman and nice, let you in with cheap draws and then there are those that have all the testosterone and will call you down and try to raise you out of pots. Its a beautiful thing...because even when I have pointed it out....it still happens!

A.

Tilter

Yeah, I remember doing it to this nice old lady at a cardroom before. But my friend told me right. When you checked, you missed a big bet, and you avg 1 big bet/hour. You costed yourself an hours work. Never again shall you women get free checks from me. They will pay, they will pay

Amy C

OK. So I'm a poker player. I take advantage of any edge I can find. So do I play the chick card? Yeah. If it helps.

I've had guys actually tell me their cards when they thought they had me beat so I wouldn't lose any more money on a hand. I've had guys muck to no bet, to let me win a hand.

At the Orleans in Vegas they have tournament bounties - you get $5 for every player you bust out. I've had guys that were short stacked bust out in a hand with me - just so the bounty would go "to the little lady."

If they want to think I'm a bimbo who doesn't know a flush from a straight - cool - I'm in. Sometimes playing dumb is the smartest move I can make.

If I get under their skin because they don't believe I belong at the table, I will do my utmost to irritate them.

So as long as guys want to think women are different than men at the table, I will take advantage. Like I said, I'm a poker player.

Amy

twosnaces

I give everyone at the table the same respect... until they give me a reason to stop respecting them. And it's nice to see more women becoming interested in the game and not JUST because they are easier to look at than the 300lbs guy that sweats a lot.

Unknown

Dave,

I think you should consider having a girl write what it is like being in a poker room...both online and live. I have been playing just over 2 years and have found that being female has had alot of advantages. Any ideas on that?

Adrienne

If you mean write for Canadian Poker Player Magazine, Dave stepped down as editor just over a month ago. All submissions should be sent to editor@canadianpokerplayer.com

Yayiwin

Its fuuny how men react to women at a poker table.My wife and I went to a local game on Saturday night .9 players 25 buy-in with 1 25 re-buy or add-on.She ended up winning the tourney that night taking me out when i had AK she had A9,she flopped 2 pair and then check razed me on the riv all -in.I lost.I loved it.I gave her a big kiss after that and told her that was an awesome move.At the time there were 4 players left and after she beat me she was top stack.She played tight letting the others battle out to try to match her stack to ake a move on her.3 players left she gets A9 in BB.Button triples up the blinds,she thinks for a sec then just calls.Flop comes A 5 Q 2 clubs.She checks her flop ,button looks at the flop for a long time then pushes.She looks at button and says your 77 is no good and calls.Turn and riv are bricks she flips her A he flips 88.Awesome again.Needles to say next hand she got KK and pushed on player when he had A6 .....tourney over.This was her second win at this venue,a grand total of 700$ profit for 2 games payed at this location .NOT BAD FOR A GIRL EH?

ScottyZ

Here are some of my two-bit observations about women & poker.

First of all, the women poker players I've generally played against seem to be distributed bimodally in skill. That is, they are (again, generally) either very good players or very bad players. This is absolutely not meant as some sort of cutdown--- I'd put the majority of the female poker players I've played against myself in the "very good" category.

For the third time I'm going to emphasize that I'm generalizing. My take is that women either take the game of poker pretty much 100% seriously, or not at all. There are quite a few men who are, for whatever reasons, willing to take a half-hearted approach (but are at least still trying somewhat) to learning poker. Women on the other hand, seem to either concentrate fully on the game and learn it very well, or are content to not learn the game much at all (possibly they are just playing for fun and/or to gamble).

As for the attitude that women "do not belong" at a poker table, this is completely ridiculous. If Amy C and others know how to take advantage of male players with this kind of attitude, more power to them. These players deserve to lose.

Women playing poker is a great thing. And not specifically because they are women. Lots of people playing poker is the great thing. TJ Cloutier once said something like "There's room for everybody [at the poker table]."

To me, when the hand is on all my opponents are just players. The witty old geezer in seat 5 is just UTG, and the hot poker babe in seat 6 is just UTG + 1. Let's play.

ScottyZ

talonchick

I would agree with your generalization Scotty regarding women either being quite strong or quite weak players. Some of the players I most avoid are women.

For those of you who say you play women players as just a player...you are clearly better than me. I HATE WOMEN AT THE POKER TABLE....it is a luxury I like to keep for myself. Some of the casinos think they are so kind and run 'ladies only' events for tournaments...I avoid these like the plague. I tend to enjoy tables with macho men who want to 'put me in my place', anyone who knows me knows I can handle myself.

Thanks all_aces....I never knew he resigned...thought about writing an article but I really don't have enough experience (just a couple years so far...and only just moved up limits in the last 7-8 months)....and don't want to make an ass of myself nationwide!!!!

Adrienne

Unknown

Thanks all_aces....I never knew he resigned...thought about writing an article but I really don't have enough experience (just a couple years so far...and only just moved up limits in the last 7-8 months)....and don't want to make an ass of myself nationwide!!!!

I make an ass of myself in that magazine every month. It gets easier. j/k

If you change your mind, you know how to reach them.

talonchick

every month???

Hey everyone....my sister (Eiranada) just won a 6000 player freeroll!!! I actually played the final table for her because she had to go to basketball but she did all the work! Go girls!!! Man was that final table ever soft though....too bad it isn't like that in cash games!

Dave Scharf

I was very interested in some "women at the table" stories when I was at the helm. In particular, I don't know how women put up with the usual banter at a table. Poker is, sigh, still a male-bastion.

On the other hand, I like playing with women. As a generalization, your average poker woman smells a lot more pleasant than your average poker man. Sometimes it's close, but I will generally play the odds on this one.

Goms27

I love it when there is a women or some women at my table. One reason - I agree with Dave as they usually do smell much better - and lots of time don't smell of smoke after a break! Secondly they are very pleasant and nice to play with. Sorry guys - but the quality of conversation seems to go up! Finally you usually never have to worry about them being rude or critisizing of anothers play - wether it be yours or someone else's at the table.

I never think of a women at my table in terms of quality of play just because they are a woman and they will not affect how I play. Annie Duke would be a whole different story. However my fault in terms of affecting my play is the whole skateboarder and young punk look! I have to find a way to get passed that and let it not affect my play. There is something about a 20 year old with his hood up, glasses on, and a cocky attitude that make me want to clean the floor with them!

Lamb_of_john

see, i really like, yet really dislike women at the table for these following reasons.

1. i DISLIKE women at the table because i cant talk about women. i cant talk about amazing farts i let last week, and i cant talk about all the shit us guys usually talk about at the table.

2. I LIKE women at the table because it's usually easy money. i make it seem as if i am one of those assholes they love to sucker out of their money so much. i play the reverse roll on them. make it seem as if i am trying to be macho and push them out of the pot, when actually i am the one with the nuts (no pun intended). i will take your money no matter what gender you are. i feel no shame taking a womans money.

3. I DISLIKE women at the table because it effects the other guys. They arent bringing their A-Game if they are folding to her to be nice.

4. i LOVE women at the table because Women are amazing. they are alot better on the eyes than "Mr. needs-a-shower", smell better than "Mr. Needs-a-shower", and often have better things to say than him too.

5. i REALLY LIKE at the table because women tend to leave emotion out of the game and tend to take beats better than men, which makes them better players. they make ME a better player.

so in general, i welcome women to my table. but make sure you bring enough to re-buy

thanks,
johnny

ScottyZ

i DISLIKE women at the table because...i cant talk about amazing farts i let last week

That settles it. I'm playing poker only with women from now on.

ScottyZ

NurseHoliday

Lamb_of_john wrote:

and often have better things to say than him too.

thanks,
johnny

I couldn't agree more. There is nothing worse than some moron who really has nothing remotely intelligent to say..........

stpboy

Dave Scharf wrote:

I was very interested in some "women at the table"....

I get this feeling from time to time too Dave

stp