facing donked turn

reibs

felt pretty gross about any move here....villian was running 35/10 thru only 31 hands

PokerStars Game #67001987524: Tournament #436010287, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (150/300) - 2011/09/04 11:35:38 ET
Table '436010287 363' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: steigen (15187 in chips)
Seat 2: ricoow1 (20355 in chips)
Seat 3: Mr.Pink2116 (16274 in chips)
Seat 4: padonak96 (9131 in chips)
Seat 5: REEBS77 (14859 in chips)
Seat 6: zetaer2 (14529 in chips)
Seat 7: Biböl002 (10768 in chips)
Seat 8: Zhura-7 (11412 in chips)
Seat 9: Ibranr1 (40193 in chips)
steigen: posts the ante 40
ricoow1: posts the ante 40
Mr.Pink2116: posts the ante 40
padonak96: posts the ante 40
REEBS77: posts the ante 40
zetaer2: posts the ante 40
Biböl002: posts the ante 40
Zhura-7: posts the ante 40
Ibranr1: posts the ante 40
Biböl002: posts small blind 150
Zhura-7: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to REEBS77 [9d 9s]
Ibranr1: folds
steigen: folds
ricoow1: folds
Mr.Pink2116: folds
padonak96: folds
REEBS77: raises 450 to 750
zetaer2: folds
Biböl002: calls 600
Zhura-7: folds
*** FLOP *** [8h Th 4d]
Biböl002: checks
REEBS77: bets 864
Biböl002: calls 864
*** TURN *** [8h Th 4d] [8s]
Biböl002: bets 1800
REEBS77: :bs:

Unknown

im likely to call this and evaluate river....there are lots of scenarios where you are ahead and he can't donk the river very big...or if he does he has a hand....

ILike2Play

He might just have a heart draw and will bet on river if he misses. I call and hope no heart hits so I can call river.

DennisG

We are in a five buck game, villain is the blind...he can have pretty much anything here. I think he donk bets the turn when he picks up his third 8 or realizes his 10 is probably good. If he was gonna bet a draw, he would have done it on the flop. I think a fold is in order here..probably just playing pretty straight forward..has A10s, or A8s..or K10, 10J..910,etc

Unknown

DennisG wrote: »

I think a fold is in order here..probably just playing pretty straight forward..has A10s, or A8s..or K10, 10J..910,etc

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa........prob a good idea....

Unknown

k i looked at the stack sizes here....i do think we can actually call and evalute river. Opponent called from the sb so were prob looking at a PP, a slow played monster pair, AK, or some broadway. The 8 on the turn doesn't change the board but this time the villain donks out.

I think if he hand 66 or 77 he would do this putting us on AK. or with a strong flush draw such as kqs or j9s. Also any AhXh hand i think could do this.

Because of hands like this I think villain dependent we can call the donk bet and evaluate the river. I just don't see many hands leading out on the river and think we will see a free showdown. If any heart comes he isn't likely to bluff with medium hands so we can safely fold or check it back. After calling this turn bet there aren't many cards he can feel comfortable bluffing at.

Donking in generally is goin to suggest some sort of weakness and uncomfortableness from villain. Although it can be a slowplayed monster much of it comes from hoping he gets to see a river card. We are getting 3 to 1 on the call and i think thats mostly all well have to pay (even if it means folding to a river blank)


Edit: as for not donking the flop, it doesn't really suggest much just that villain is taking a fishy line. He can check back the flop hoping we'll check and when the turn comes he can donk for pot control (fishy).