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25 nl skill check
6max.....should i be able to beat this or is the competition decent at this level. cause ive been sorta studyin it expecting to just go steadily up but really im getting slaughtered...maybe.....i feel like i can do better than even in midstakes mtts but toss money at 6 max
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Are you looking at a specific win rate or profit?
Are you adequately rolled?
What books/videos have you been watching?
How have you been losing? Post some hands and let's take a look.
yes profit would be nice
yes i have many reloads available.....
not sure what hands to post is the thing. i might take another go at it, dig in a little since i read alot but hadn't played it much before i did my studies on it....maybe have to re read now that i have more experience at it......
appreciate the help would be nice to find some overall concepts im screwin up.....:mad:
AGREED, cash games are for suckers. play PLO if your gonna play cash games :P
I like aejones and baluga's books.
They are both awesome.
But they are totally wrong for 25NL.
Way too advanced.
You're doing magic tricks to a dog. It wastes time and annoys the dog.
aejones is for nose bleed stakes.
To beat the micros you don't need to worry about balancing your range or playing unexploitably.
Are you using a HUD?
ya thats what i thought but im not being too complex i think, just never gaining, i feel like i must out class the low limit players but im not winning the monies. i may be over thinking it but i feel like i lose more if i play stupider. i have a few more learning tricks up my sleeve and then ill be stuck. maybe i need to move up to nosebleeds then....
and yes im using a hud but honestly i haven't zoned in on the standards for each stat like i know tourney play...
Partly. I just dont think random fish deposit online to grind cash games. I think they deposit to bink a big/med score.
Im likely wrong tho.
was trying to post our allin pre with j8s and 44 or something playin cash but i messed up my pt3 trying to do it....
thats why you keep waiting until you get a set....they pay you off constantly!!
Those are good players? Our definitions must be different...
A simple TAG strategy should be sufficient then playing NL25 to profit. Play a lot of position and make sure you are able to release hands when you get resistance. A lot of the players at NL25 play an ABC poker game with a bit of a mix, I find if you bet your hand accordingly and don't call a lot of re-raises on the river chances are you will have a decent win rate at this level. Post some hand histories where you thought you made some errors and we can see where your leaks are.....
Very true as well, playing the 11-27 dollar tournies on Stars etc, you may find yourself binking a nice score, even the SNGs can be profitable.
PLO ROCKS....I suggest PLO to help with hand reading and understanding betting, I found after playing PLO for the last 6 months hold em is a cake walk. Also anything under 1/2 PLO is pretty straight forward and extremely easy. Just brush up on a couple of PLO concepts.
Once again play within your limit and the avg player should be able to beat NL100 and under with enough info.
I will play a little more and back with questions and hands....thx Blacky!
Yeah I have played these levels just post some hands and give your thoughts on the hand and I think there are enough players on here to give analysis.
I've had success with the 6player NL5dollar SnGs, playing ABC poker. I've found that my win rate depends on the speed of the game, seems like the good players hang out at the regular speed and the rookies at the turbo and hyper. The hyper tables have been the most profitable, the players there seem very impatient and push too often. I imagine it's similar up there at 25.
i found out all of my positions are profitable except i was losing giant amount from my blind. more than i should be.....leak tightened..
the other thing was something i knew was going on but i couldn't figure out exactly what.....my vpip and pfr were very standard...but something was still off, my post flop play destroys the general feild but i was still losing....turns out i was too lose from ep and too tight from lp.....so my vpip was correct overall but not good in respect to position .....i must play more with my new ranges then i will maybe come back with some hh's
I'm really tight utg and and really loose on the button.
What's your starting hands selection preflop UTG at 6 max?
I use ATs+, AJo+, QJo+, KJo+ and pairs.
If you're having trouble you can play much tighter UTG,
AJso+, KQs, pairs. (As you gain experience you will want to widen this range.)
On the button I open raise 40% of my hands
65o, 95s+, 85s+
those offsuit broadways are dangerous utg i think, and i wasn't even playing them, but i was playing hands like 97s, k4s, 65s.....so ya i tightened up to your 2nd range their i seem to have more grasp of the general game flow.....
i played 1200 hands last night might post my top 10 losing hands....was down 1 buyin by the end...
Yes, I agree those offsuit broadways are *dangerous* You have to be ready to pitch them. You don't lose much by playing the tighter range I suggested.
I'll post a bunch of hands too.