Sigh spot

Anyone diciplined enough to lay this down on the flop? Villain is running 18/5 but is really aggressive postflop

PokerStars Game #43513977249: Tournament #2010050022, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (40/80) - 2010/05/03 0:08:49 CET [2010/05/02 18:08:49 ET]
Table '2010050022 150' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: espinho6 (19350 in chips)
Seat 2: Funeraler (14575 in chips)
Seat 3: Jonnybegoode (12750 in chips)
Seat 4: _Frib0urg_ (10160 in chips)
Seat 5: dangdokodang (10035 in chips)
Seat 6: strizis (8320 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: IRichardI (9460 in chips)
Seat 8: jfitz23 (8985 in chips)
Seat 9: lorga (6365 in chips)
strizis: posts small blind 40
IRichardI: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IRichardI [:qc :qs]
jfitz23: raises 80 to 160
lorga: folds
espinho6: calls 160
Funeraler: folds
strizis has returned
Jonnybegoode: folds
_Frib0urg_: folds
dangdokodang: calls 160
strizis: calls 120
IRichardI: raises 540 to 700
jfitz23: folds
espinho6: calls 540
dangdokodang: calls 540
strizis: folds
*** FLOP *** [:6s :2h :js]
strizis is sitting out
IRichardI: bets 800
espinho6: raises 1200 to 2000
dangdokodang: folds
IRichardI: calls 1200
*** TURN *** [:6s :2h :js] [:as]
IRichardI: checks
espinho6: bets 16650 and is all-in
IRichardI: folds
Uncalled bet (16650) returned to espinho6
espinho6 collected 6420 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6420 | Rake 0
Board [6s 2h Js As]
Seat 1: espinho6 collected (6420)
Seat 2: Funeraler folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Jonnybegoode folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: _Frib0urg_ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dangdokodang (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: strizis (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: IRichardI (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: jfitz23 folded before Flop
Seat 9: lorga folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Comments

  • seems i woulda acted very close to the same. i can't say its a disciplined lay down. i think you had him on the flop...
  • Just that there isn't much on the flop to hit. I suppose people are still capable of messing up by playing a flushdraw or AJ like this though

    Edit: What makes me want to lay it down is that unless he's a complete retard my hand is face up here
  • Richard~ wrote: »
    Just that there isn't much on the flop to hit. I suppose people are still capable of messing up by playing a flushdraw or AJ like this though

    Edit: What makes me want to lay it down is that unless he's a complete retard my hand is face up here

    yes and only negreanu shows a bluff here....maybe wetts i dunno. i see aj or flushdraw which why i wouldn't lay down on the flop.

    but i always look for small pots if i can with queens until i hit something with the streets.
  • Now then... Please analyse this hand and tell me if there's any improvement to be made regarding the speed of my finger reaching the call button

    PokerStars Game #43518277401: Tournament #2010050022, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2010/05/03 1:37:19 CET [2010/05/02 19:37:19 ET]
    Table '2010050022 150' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: espinho6 (9814 in chips)
    Seat 2: Funeraler (10831 in chips)
    Seat 3: Jonnybegoode (12253 in chips)
    Seat 4: _Frib0urg_ (6505 in chips)
    Seat 5: -dim2626- (19446 in chips)
    Seat 6: strizis (11755 in chips)
    Seat 7: IRichardI (19595 in chips)
    Seat 8: jfitz23 (16335 in chips)
    Seat 9: lorga (11949 in chips)
    espinho6: posts the ante 25
    Funeraler: posts the ante 25
    Jonnybegoode: posts the ante 25
    _Frib0urg_: posts the ante 25
    -dim2626-: posts the ante 25
    strizis: posts the ante 25
    IRichardI: posts the ante 25
    jfitz23: posts the ante 25
    lorga: posts the ante 25
    lorga: posts small blind 100
    espinho6: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to IRichardI [:ah :ac]
    Funeraler: raises 400 to 600
    Jonnybegoode: folds
    _Frib0urg_: folds
    -dim2626-: folds
    strizis: folds
    IRichardI: raises 1150 to 1750
    jfitz23: folds
    lorga: folds
    espinho6: folds
    Funeraler: calls 1150
    *** FLOP *** [:3h :8h :as]
    Funeraler: bets 9056 and is all-in
    IRichardI: calls 9056
    *** TURN *** [:3h :8h :as] [:jh]
    *** RIVER *** [:3h :8h :as :jh] [:5h]
    _Frib0urg_ said, "lol"
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Funeraler: shows [:kc :ad] (a pair of Aces)
    IRichardI: shows [:ah :ac] (a flush, Ace high)
    IRichardI collected 22137 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 22137 | Rake 0
    Board [3h 8h As Jh 5h]
    Seat 1: espinho6 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: Funeraler showed [Kc Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 3: Jonnybegoode folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: _Frib0urg_ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: -dim2626- folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: strizis folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: IRichardI showed [Ah Ac] and won (22137) with a flush, Ace high
    Seat 8: jfitz23 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: lorga (small blind) folded before Flop
  • Looking good on both Rich, pretty much how I would have played it to the tee:)
  • Why no rejamming that flop on the first hand?
  • actyper wrote: »
    Why no rejamming that flop on the first hand?

    ive been trying to suck the drawing hand in a little more, expecting a fold if i re re raise. but i'm down with that too.
  • With your stack size I get it in on the flop in the first hand
  • actyper wrote: »
    Why no rejamming that flop on the first hand?

    Because I really don't like my reverse implied odds and I think I'm getting called by almost all hands villain is raising the flop with and I'll rarely be crushing those hands

    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

    11,880 games 0.001 secs 11,880,000 games/sec

    Board: 6s Js 3d
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 29.200% 29.20% 00.00% 3469 0.00 { QhQs }
    Hand 1: 70.800% 70.80% 00.00% 8411 0.00 { JJ, 66, 33, AsQs, AJs, KsQs, QsTs }


    ---

    20,790 games 0.001 secs 20,790,000 games/sec

    Board: 6s Js 3d
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 50.625% 50.63% 00.00% 10525 0.00 { QhQs }
    Hand 1: 49.375% 49.37% 00.00% 10265 0.00 { JJ, 66, 33, AsQs, AJs, KsQs, QsTs, AJo }


    ---


    Something like that if I want to be pessemistic, I probably have to shove any safe turn though
  • Richard~ wrote: »
    Hand 0: 29.200% 29.20% 00.00% 3469 0.00 { QhQs }
    Hand 1: 70.800% 70.80% 00.00% 8411 0.00 { JJ, 66, 33, AsQs, AJs, KsQs, QsTs }


    ---

    20,790 games 0.001 secs 20,790,000 games/sec

    Board: 6s Js 3d
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 50.625% 50.63% 00.00% 10525 0.00 { QhQs }
    Hand 1: 49.375% 49.37% 00.00% 10265 0.00 { JJ, 66, 33, AsQs, AJs, KsQs, QsTs, AJo }

    Re-run it
  • Yah I get it in on the flop, expecting to be ahead more often than not
  • jdAA88 wrote: »
    Yah I get it in on the flop, expecting to be ahead more often than not

    why does everyone do this? ^^' We have plenty of time to get the money into the middlde even if we wait
  • Richard~ wrote: »
    why does everyone do this? ^^' We have plenty of time to get the money into the middlde even if we wait



    +1


    Blinds are only 40/80 people:)
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