Rounders
I want to start by saying that I LOVED the movie Rounders. Being a fairly amateurish poker player, however, I often wonder what the professionals and the more skilled think about the movie and some of the moves that the main character made. I also wonder if they gave an accurate portrayal of life as a pro...
From what little I know, someone taking down Johnny Chan once at high-limit table isn't automatically a great player. I guess movies need to dramatize things a little bit.
From what little I know, someone taking down Johnny Chan once at high-limit table isn't automatically a great player. I guess movies need to dramatize things a little bit.
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I've heard rumors that a movie will be made about Texas Dolly. I want to see what type of movie this will be
I've got this on DVD, and I was a little disappointed that there were no special features. True that the movie shouldn't cater too much towards the "hardcore" poker fans, but they could have had a lot of poker extras for us diehards. Are you telling me they don't have any coverage of Matt & Edward playing in the WSOP?
And where's the feature length commentary by Vince Van Patten?
"What a nice move betting $1000 into a $75 pot-- good aggressive play! And here comes the Russian Rocket back over the top for exactly half his stack. Beautiful!
Hey, if you see any Oreo cookies at your poker table, you'd better *run*, not walk out the door."
ScottyZ
Right at the beginning of the movie, when they are playing in the no-limit cash game where KGB busts out Matt Damon...
The flop comes A9-rag, and Matt flops top two. Then, the 9 hits on the river, and he moves all-in on KGB with 9s over Aces. As it turns out, KGB has Aces over nines.
Here's where I perceive there to be a poker flaw in the movie (I'm very nitpicky with movies, as an fyi). The main character (Matt Damon) would have played his hand the exact same way if he had flopped a set of nines, and the probability of him having the case nine is identical to the probability of him having the case nine. Sooo....when KGB calls him down at the river, he was supremely confident that his Aces over nines would hold up, and he shouldn't have been.
Now, that being said, it's a movie. Maybe KGB could have spotted a tell or something that would put him on two-pair vs. a set. Alls I'm saying is that his hand wasn't the nut.
Possibly Teddy thinks that Mikey would not bet on the flop with a set of nines.
But I've always envisioned a director's cut, where Mikey does show down the quad nines, and scoops the pot. Movie over, and he's off to Vegas a little ahead of schedule!
Along the same lines, in the last hand of movie, Teddy makes some kind of comment on the river that the Ace "could not have helped" Mikey. What if Mikey had AA? That would catch up to any hand Teddy could have had up to that point (besides having the same straight as Mikey McD of course).
My main beef with that movie: isn't $30,000 enough to begin with? Why does Mikey have to "roll up a stake" before he heads to Vegas? I guess the idea is if he loses it all then he's still got his law student life, but I think it's just strange in terms of the amount of his bankroll. What does he expect to realistically do with that bankroll? Double up to $60,000 playing a few high stakes no-limit sessions? Is that really such a big improvement over the original $30,000? Is he aiming even higher than this, trying to accumulate $100K or $200K? If he can make that kind of dough at his local no-limit game, why go to Vegas at all?
Don't forget that at the end of the movie he does end up heading off to Vegas. His bankroll? A much healthier [drum roll...] $30,000.
ScottyZ
I guess that's why they call it a "movie".
(I like any movie about grifters, hustlers, gamblers, thieves or scoundrels) lmao
And Scotty, I didn't realize that feature length commentary by Vince Van Patten would be considered an extra. lol
Directed by: Wes Craven
Writing Credits: Nia Vardalos
Executive Producer: Phil Hellmuth
Plot Outline: A young man (Wil Wheaton) goes on a rip-roaring rampage of slaughter while travelling across the country in an attempt to bankroll his entry into the 2005 WSOP. Along the way he meets his true love, Annie (Juliette Lewis) who insists on finding a Greek Orthidox church along the glittering lights of The Strip in Las Vegas.
Cast overview, first billed only:
Wil Wheaton ...Phil "Superstar" Hellmuth
Juliette Lewis ...Annie Duke
Dave Scharf ...Las Vegas Thug
ScottyZ ...Casino Hippy
but seriously, the best part about Rounders: Famke Janssen. :shock:
A nice twist would be that Dave & I actually turn out to be undercover Delta Force Operators.
ScottyZ
You'd be shocked. Most pros have been stone broke and in large debt at some point.
ROFL