AK in a 4bet pot, +EV move?
i want to know if this move is +EV or not
say
AKs (100BB) on BTN make a standard raise 3.5BB
BB (100BB) 3bet 12BB
AK 4bet 30BB
BB called. 60.5BB in the pot.
flop rag, rag, rag
BB check it to you.
is it profitable to go allin here?
i see no point to just bet, because any bet committed me.
+ev vs LAG?
+EV vs TAG?
another hand.
AK (100BB) on BB, make a 4.5BB raise after BTN limp in.
BTN (100BB) 3bet you 14BB
AK 4bet to 35BB
BTN called.
70.5BB in the pot.
Flop Rag, Rag, Rag.
is it profitable to shove here?
I also see no point to just bet, because any bet committed me.
+EV vs Lag?
+EV vs Tag?
Thank you in advance.
6max game by the way!
say
AKs (100BB) on BTN make a standard raise 3.5BB
BB (100BB) 3bet 12BB
AK 4bet 30BB
BB called. 60.5BB in the pot.
flop rag, rag, rag
BB check it to you.
is it profitable to go allin here?
i see no point to just bet, because any bet committed me.
+ev vs LAG?
+EV vs TAG?
another hand.
AK (100BB) on BB, make a 4.5BB raise after BTN limp in.
BTN (100BB) 3bet you 14BB
AK 4bet to 35BB
BTN called.
70.5BB in the pot.
Flop Rag, Rag, Rag.
is it profitable to shove here?
I also see no point to just bet, because any bet committed me.
+EV vs Lag?
+EV vs Tag?
Thank you in advance.
6max game by the way!
Comments
vs TAG likely -ev (you think he calls here with a worse hand? i can't see him folding a better hand. i expect his check is some kind of trap)
?? vs TAG (likely +ev since his range should be wider?)
if they have any sort of hand to call an allin bet. why didn't they 5bet allin preflop?
I never call a 4bet (push or fold IMO)
sometime when i get my 4bet call, i kinda not sure what to do but shovel.
(not that many people would call a 4bet)
i just want to make sure, this is +EV move, and not a leak for me.
my exprience TAG is more easier to push off in a 4bet pot then LAG
samply, raggy flop are more likely to hit his hand. (trust me,,, AK in a 4bet pot, getting smash by LAG's mighty 43 soooted is not fun)
as for TAG (myself), in a 4bet pot, i would have hard time calling that flop shovel, even with hand as strong as QQ.
of course, if i have QQ, i did 5bet it preflop.
my question:
mathmatically speaking, in a 4bet pot, is the shovel on the raggy flop, a +EV or -EV move?
Fold Equity ?% + sucking out that A or K ?% = 50%+ ?
you want to calculate fold equity? you have to know what range calls a 4 bet but folds to a pot-sized bet with no money behind. i can't think of a hand that does this, especially for a TAG. with a LAG and a bad flop, at worst he has a strong draw...
how be your propose a model and i give you feedback on it?
always? that can't be +EV. stack size and player reads have to be considered.