What Would You have done in this situation!!!!!!!

this is a cash game 5/10 no limit. I am Second next to the chip leader with $1485 and the leader with $1670. now i have been getting trash cards and folding for the past 20 hands and now i was finally dealt AK of spades. i am the big blind and 4 people folded and the guy before the button rasied to $40 and the button re-raised to $80. now it was on me. not being a fan of AK and having folded the last 20 times i called. the $40 raiser folded and now it was just us at the Flop.
(POT is $290)
Me: AK of spades
The Button: ??

Flop: A (hearts) K (hearts) K (Clubs)

I was first to act and i Checked Tryong to trap him and let him hit a card. He Pushed ALL In for his remaining $1550. Now i called him in a heart beat with my remaining $1365.

(POT $3205)

Me: AK Spades
Button: QJ Hearts

Turn & River A (hearts) K (hearts) K (Clubs) 2 (sapdes) 10 (hearts)

i mean he hit his royal flush. was i wrong for calling his all in or was this a hand i could have gotten away from because of the small pot? what would you have done? i would like to hear from all fo you.

Comments

  • Were you wrong?

    No. If you really have to ask that, you shouldn't be playing 5/10 NL games.

    Was he lucky? Yes. He hit his 1 outer. It happens, sucks that it cost you >1k, but if you do that same thing 100 times, you're up..... a lot.

    The raise / re-raise pre-flop was a little scary for AK IMO - barring reads, I would say that at best you're racing and at worst you're WAY behind... I could have sworn this was going to become a "He had AA" beat.

    Mark
  • I have never posted a negative post until now....but next time just ask "I flopped Quads and the guy goes all in......I call......and they guy catches a turn-river straight flush. Should I have folded?"

    There are certain f-u moments in poker where you get screwed no matter what you do and this is one of them.

    The only worthy discusssion of this hand is the pre-flop play. I would have folded pre-flop...because I don't like AK at all in that situation....but that's just me.
  • Otto is somewhat right

    With a raise and re-raise, I'm afraid with AK there, which is why I mentioned the "read-dependant" part in my reply.

    However, since this guy is re-raising with QJ, then I"m assuming he tremendously over-values hands, and you should have re-raised again PF.

    Mark
  • the main thing i wanted to know about this situation, was if i should have even called with the AK or like you said re-raised the re-raise. everything else that happened was just a bad beat i understand. It was just the pre-Flop what i was wondering about
  • BoyBlue wrote:
    the main thing i wanted to know about this situation, was if i should have even called with the AK  or like you said re-raised the re-raise.  everything else that happened was just a bad beat i understand.  It was just the pre-Flop what i was wondering about

    In this case your question is impossible to answer.

    I would need to know who I"m playing against in order to make what I felt was the correct decision. I'm not overly worried about cutoff +1 (original raiser) since he may be on a steal, but that depends on my read on him. The re-raise from chip lead I have to decide if he's got something or if he's just big-stack bullying, based on previous hands I'd seen with him, I could get a read on his range of re-raising hands. Now, given this particular situation, i've seen one hand, and if this is all I had to base it on, I'd say he greatly over-values starting hands and draws, and retroactively would have re-raised him pre-flop, based on my read.

    Now, can you guess why we can't really answer?

    If this was a new table and I knew nothing of anyone, I'd probably fold AK out of position to a raise and re-raise.

    Mark
  • Otto_Troy wrote:
    I have never posted a negative post until now....
    ???

    I would either call or re-raise to 300 or so, depending on the raiser and re-raiser. I would tend to call. No way I'd ever fold the flop. Ever. Ever. Ever. I wonder how big of a bluffer that initial raiser was...
  • Just to answer the title line:

    I WOULD LOSE ALL MY MONEY!

    I think you played this hand just fine. The SB re-raise is obiviously a resteal, and I actually like the cold call. No way I'm folding :as :ks after a period of card deadness.

    I know it sucks losing when you're ahead by 95% on the flop, but poop happens.

    Sorry about your loss.

    What site was this on?

    Johnnie
  • this was a cash game in toronto.
  • DrTyore wrote:
    If you really have to ask that, you shouldn't be playing 5/10 NL games.
    Re-read this...

    As far as pre-flop play, no reads were provided. However, a guy who re-pops it with QJs is probably not the tightest player, plus he's on the button. I'd have no problem playing this hand (even with the re-raise) except against the tightest of players. I probably wouldn't re-raise, since that opens the betting back up to the (assumed loose) button and you still have the original raiser to act, and I'd prefer to see a flop (but that's mainly a style difference - I prefer post-flop play).
  • Should have played at a Bad Beat Jackpot Table....Don't all the poker rooms have one?...Then making that one outer isn't so bad after all. I could be wrong though.
  • BoyBlue wrote:
    this was a cash game in toronto.

    My bad. Between the limits and the bad beat, I naturally thought it was PokerStars.

    Live poker is rigged. :D

    Johnnie
  • Hey BoyBlue, tough break. Since you are mainly concerned with your preflop play you would get better feedback had you ended your post by asking what to do preflop and not telling what you actually did. (or the final result) A good read on the button would have been helpful too.

    What would I have done, probably raised the size of the pot knowing the button would be the kind of player to raise with QJs hoping to make the original raiser fold.
    Then I may have covered the area behind me in vomit after the river card.

    Since I've started playing poker, I wouldn't feel so good if I left the doctors office being told I'm 95% sure to beat this thing.
  • JohnnieH wrote:
    BoyBlue wrote:
    this was a cash game in toronto.

    My bad.  Between the limits and the bad beat, I naturally thought it was PokerStars.

    Live poker is rigged. :D

    Johnnie

    I said that live poker was rigged in a tourney when my flopped set lost to a smaller flopped set when he hit the 4th queen on the turn and no one believed me.
  • It was a common pharse at one of Big_E's home games.

    Jenn had :qd :qs, Eric had :ks :kh, and Trevor had :as :ah.

    Oh, the Aces held up too.
  • 4.44% ouch.

    You flop the second nuts, and the only draw to beat you is a one outer? or runner runner for quads... No way anyone in their right mind would fold that.
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