chips for cash game

[FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]i was wondering what is the best breakdown of chips for cash games. i have a set of chips but i'm wondering if i have enough.

the game will probably be 6-8 i'd imagine. i'm also thinking that we'll set up the blind as $0.10-$0.10 or $0.25-$0.25 just to make it easier for the drunks ;). buy-in will probably be $10-$20.

so how many chips do i need for this setup assuming that there will be a few rebuys/top-ups made?
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  • Because you want to run as low as .10 you need to start with this denom. The next jump up should be .50, but since you want to run .25 game as well, you'll need those instead of .50

    I recommend

    .10 100
    .25 100
    1.00 20

    For a 6-8 man game this would be your minimum. For addons and topups, you might want to go with something like this

    .10 150
    .25 200
    1.00 50

    Should give you enough for your needs. If you need more, add more quarters and make change as required. I'm sure Moose or Milo will make recommendations as well.
  • At my home game when you bust out of the tourney we do NLHE $20 buy in with $0.25 and $0.50 blinds. My starting stacks right away include chips up to $0.25, $0.50, $1, $2 and $5 denomination. I think this really gets the gamble going in people. With fewer smaller denomination chips in play the pots tend to get bigger and this generates more action. We generally have two tables of cash games going so I recommend:
    80 - $0.25 (3 rolls)
    40 - $0.50 (2 roll)
    40 - $1.00 (2 roll)
    60 - $2.00 (3 rolls)
    40 - $5.00 (2 roll)

    Just my two cents...
  • thank you both for the input.

    @young grimm: sorry if this is a stupid question, but what do you mean by 'rolls'?
  • STR82ACE wrote: »
    Because you want to run as low as .10 you need to start with this denom. The next jump up should be .50, but since you want to run .25 game as well, you'll need those instead of .50

    I recommend

    .10 100
    .25 100
    1.00 20

    For a 6-8 man game this would be your minimum. For addons and topups, you might want to go with something like this

    .10 150
    .25 200
    1.00 50

    Should give you enough for your needs. If you need more, add more quarters and make change as required. I'm sure Moose or Milo will make recommendations as well.

    8*$20 is $160 on the table to start. Your bank is only $115?

    For flexibility for bigger games I would get two racks of red chips for $5s and use them for nickels for small stakes. Otherwise if you ever move to .25/.25, your dimes will be useless.

    200 red $.05/$5
    100 $.25
    200 $1
    50 $25 for top ups

    If the chips you get don't have denoms then make the $25 chips -> $20 chips because $20 works far better for rebuys.
  • thanks moose.

    another quick question. do you guys normally buy chips online and get them shipped to you? is that the best way to get a good deal? are there any stores in southern ontario to go to?

    i know of thechiproom.com. any other good sites out there?

    if i do end up buying a new set i'm probably looking to spend around $200ish on them.
  • trigs wrote: »
    if i do end up buying a new set i'm probably looking to spend around $200ish on them.

    I remember saying those EXACT words...vaguely!

    ChipRoom is your best bet. Best prices, best quality, and delivery has never failed me.
  • trigs wrote: »
    thanks moose.

    another quick question. do you guys normally buy chips online and get them shipped to you? is that the best way to get a good deal? are there any stores in southern ontario to go to?

    i know of thechiproom.com. any other good sites out there?

    if i do end up buying a new set i'm probably looking to spend around $200ish on them.
    the chiproom is probably the best place especially when Jim has a sale every few months.

    you basically have to go to the US to get good chips. What kind are you looking for? true clay? ceramics? full customs? semi customs?

    for semi customs I would recommend PGI's 8V labelled chips. they are quite nice (not slugged!) and they put the label on with your own artwork. works out to be about 200 bucks for 500 chip set. the only thing that costs a lot is the shipping and fees :(

    my avatar is the 8V
  • the chiproom is probably the best place especially when Jim has a sale every few months.

    you basically have to go to the US to get good chips. What kind are you looking for? true clay? ceramics? full customs? semi customs?

    for semi customs I would recommend PGI's 8V labelled chips. they are quite nice (not slugged!) and they put the label on with your own artwork. works out to be about 200 bucks for 500 chip set. the only thing that costs a lot is the shipping and fees :(

    my avatar is the 8V

    i think i'd prefer clay. i don't care too much about customizing them but obviously i want to get ones that i like the look of ;)

    by 'go to the US' do you mean order online from the states or literally go there and purchase in person?
  • The order links you want are here:

    TheChipRoom.com Offers -

    For your price range you are looking at the top three links - Dunes, Desert Palms or Pharoahs. Real casino chips will run you much more unless you want to go with used and then clean them and .50c chips will be realistically the lowest denom you will find. If you catch a sale at the chiproom, the used casino chips can sometimes be picked up for <.50 ea.

    The only thing you have to worry about as far as ordering from the US is getting nabbed at customs. Paid $46 today on a 300 chip order. About 50% of my packages never get inspected and go straight through.
  • moose wrote: »
    The order links you want are here:

    TheChipRoom.com Offers -

    For your price range you are looking at the top three links - Dunes, Desert Palms or Pharoahs. Real casino chips will run you much more unless you want to go with used and then clean them and .50c chips will be realistically the lowest denom you will find. If you catch a sale at the chiproom, the used casino chips can sometimes be picked up for <.50 ea.

    The only thing you have to worry about as far as ordering from the US is getting nabbed at customs. Paid $46 today on a 300 chip order. About 50% of my packages never get inspected and go straight through.

    i do like the look of the pharaohs. desert palms aren't too bad.
  • the china pharoahs are nice. I would say pharaohs over palms.

    ya customs BLOW.. paid 91 dollars for a 215 dollar chip order :(
    Im not sure how UPS does their C.O.D structure if its by weight or size but a 42% fee is outrageous! thats the perils of online chipping...i mean shipping ;)

    look for some nice used casino paulsons from chiproom sales. he might still have some left (grand vics or terribles) from the fathers day sale at chiptalk.

    whatever you decide DONT get chips with metal inserts lol.. get full clay (china included). if you can pick up your chippies with a magnet, dont get em!
    GL
  • If you want to go cheaper then I found a ton of the 11.5 g composite ones on ebay. I just bought rolls of the colours I liked to add to my tournament bank. So I have white, blue, red, black, green, orange, yellow and purple suited chips for tournaments then a set of dice marked chips (white, blue, red, black and green) for my cash games. I got all through customs with no issue.
  • In the future always refuse any international shipment by UPS. They ding you 100% of the time and the fees are outrageous. I got billed $15 one time on a 'free' hat I won from Absolute. I refused to pay and they sent a collection agency after me. Assholes.

    Insist on USPS.
  • moose wrote: »
    In the future always refuse any international shipment by UPS. They ding you 100% of the time and the fees are outrageous. I got billed $15 one time on a 'free' hat I won from Absolute. I refused to pay and they sent a collection agency after me. Assholes.

    Insist on USPS.

    THIS !!! There is a reason the "brown" is the colour for UPS. It is now to the point where, if the seller will not ship USPS, I am not buying. The Pharoah's Club chips are great at the asking price.
  • ya wish I knew this last week. Palm gaming uses UPS I guess and know I know the price to pay for it. can you request from a merchant to use USPS??
    but back on track.. get the pharoahs or similar trigs. dont get the 'official' casino weight slugged chip composites. ugh. get china clay!! or spend a bit more and get used casino paulsons
  • Thanks for all the info. Gives me a lot to think about heh
  • ya wish I knew this last week. Palm gaming uses UPS I guess and know I know the price to pay for it. can you request from a merchant to use USPS??
    but back on track.. get the pharoahs or similar trigs. dont get the 'official' casino weight slugged chip composites. ugh. get china clay!! or spend a bit more and get used casino paulsons


    ABSOLUTELY. It is now the first thing I ask of a new e-tailer. If they only offer UPS, I shop elsewhere, and I tell them why. Fuck UPS.
  • trigs wrote: »
    i do like the look of the pharaohs. desert palms aren't too bad.

    My main sets for MTTs and cash games are DPs, with a few Pharaohs in reserve in case I'm short. They are good chips at a reasonable price, but getting actual chips (and cards, tables, etc) from closed casinos is way, way cooler. Spend a little more to get chips that are in descent condition.
  • I'd like to add:

    DAMN YOU MOOSE FOR LETTING US GET SUCKED INTO THIS VOID OF CHIP SNOBBERY!!!

    OK I'm done now.
  • all I will say to finish is get a quality set. I started with dice chips, then went to slugged composites (still basically plastic with like .5% clay in it lol) then to ceramics and then to china clays then to used casino paulson and now to full custom real inlay clays from ASM. It all depends completely on your level of passion for chips. some are happy with bottom end chips and some want the best for addiction/collectors purposes. I didnt think I would ever be addicted to chips but here I am 5 months later and $1200 to $1400 shorter in the wallet

    its your call, just think about how much you like chips then go decide then if you want cheap or cream della crem. may be more costly to get cheapos then want to upgrade a bit later.

    oh.. buy samples! lol
  • moose wrote: »
    200 red $.05/$5
    100 $.25
    200 $1
    50 $25 for top ups

    i was just kind of playing around with the above numbers and i wanted to ask what others thought of the following breakdowns:

    8 players - $10 buy-in - $0.10-$0.10 blinds:
    each player would get:
    20 $0.05 = $1.00 (160 chips)
    12 $0.25 = $3.00 (96 chips)
    6 $1.00 = $6.00 (48 chips)

    8 players - $20 buy-in - $0.25-$0.25 blinds:
    each player would get:
    12 $0.25 = $3.00 (96 chips)
    12 $1.00 = $12.00 (96 chips)
    1 $5.00 = $5.00 (8 chips)

    i think for the blinds that i'm most likely using, it seems i will probably need more of the .25 chips (maybe 150 0r 200 of those instead).
  • Nickels are kind of a pain but I understand also the desire for small stakes. I don't think anyone would ever bet more than 5 nickels at a time when they could use a quarter instead.

    For the low stakes game I would use something like:
    10 .05
    10 .25
    7 $1

    Then you could get a rack each and have just enough for a 10 player game, and in an eight player game you could put the remaining 20 .05/.25 in play on rebuys.

    In a .25/.25 game it would be pretty rare for someone to open raise to .75, more likely they would go straight to an even $1, so again usually for those stakes I give out 8 .25 each and put extras in play on rebuys, though 12 as you have suggested is also common. But anyways at those stakes, your $1 chip is the workhorse, and bets will rarely get above $10 unless someone is shoving allin anyways so your breakdown is fine. Except I wouldn't put $5s on the table until you run out of smaller denoms. If you get 10 players you could still use:
    8 .25
    18 $1

    and therefore a rack of .25 and two racks of $1 will still do.

    So anyways at your stakes bare minimum you could use:
    100 .05/$5
    100 $.25
    200 $1

    If you run out of chips you could let cash play on the table ($20s only) or add 50 $25/$20 chips or add another rack of $5.

    If you go with the denominated Pharoahs/Dunes/DPs from the chiproom then the denoms limit your ability to change around the chip values but of course, denominated chips are also a little bit nicer and avoid the endless questions about how much each chip is worth. Of course, having to buy more chips so that you have both nickels and fivers in your set, from the point of view of a chip guy, is not necessarily a bad thing either. :)
  • moose wrote: »
    Nickels are kind of a pain but I understand also the desire for small stakes. I don't think anyone would ever bet more than 5 nickels at a time when they could use a quarter instead.

    For the low stakes game I would use something like:
    10 .05
    10 .25
    7 $1

    Then you could get a rack each and have just enough for a 10 player game, and in an eight player game you could put the remaining 20 .05/.25 in play on rebuys.

    In a .25/.25 game it would be pretty rare for someone to open raise to .75, more likely they would go straight to an even $1, so again usually for those stakes I give out 8 .25 each and put extras in play on rebuys, though 12 as you have suggested is also common. But anyways at those stakes, your $1 chip is the workhorse, and bets will rarely get above $10 unless someone is shoving allin anyways so your breakdown is fine. Except I wouldn't put $5s on the table until you run out of smaller denoms. If you get 10 players you could still use:
    8 .25
    18 $1

    and therefore a rack of .25 and two racks of $1 will still do.

    So anyways at your stakes bare minimum you could use:
    100 .05/$5
    100 $.25
    200 $1

    If you run out of chips you could let cash play on the table ($20s only) or add 50 $25/$20 chips or add another rack of $5.

    If you go with the denominated Pharoahs/Dunes/DPs from the chiproom then the denoms limit your ability to change around the chip values but of course, denominated chips are also a little bit nicer and avoid the endless questions about how much each chip is worth. Of course, having to buy more chips so that you have both nickels and fivers in your set, from the point of view of a chip guy, is not necessarily a bad thing either. :)

    thanks again moose.

    if i do end up buying new chips (which probably won't be right now, maybe over the summer some time), i'm most likely going to get ones with denoms since the set i have now does not have them.
  • Hijacking a bit the thread but since there's no chip talk sub-forum: what do you chip experts think about the Milano chips? https://www.claysmithgaming.com/milano-poker-chips

    I'm reading good reviews and at a good price (from .28 a piece, Amazon.ca for ex) they look attractive. I also like the simple/clear design.

    Thanks!
  • They are fairly popular, similar manufacturing as the compression China clays from the chiproom.

    The 5k and 10k are rather close in colour though.

    30648d1335732503-milano-complaint-100_0041.jpg
  • Irunit4times on this site has them, and likes them a lot.
  • Milo wrote: »
    Irunit4times on this site has them, and likes them a lot.

    Thanks, found the other thread, I'll ask him where he got them
  • moose wrote: »
    They are fairly popular, similar manufacturing as the compression China clays from the chiproom.

    The 5k and 10k are rather close in colour though.

    30648d1335732503-milano-complaint-100_0041.jpg

    Thanks, I also saw that issue. I don't want them for tournaments, just for micro cash game. This is what I was thinking to support 25c/25c up to $1/$2:

    A set of 500:

    100 25c
    200 $1
    150 $5
    25 $25
    25 $100

    Or similar, this way I'd have 1) enough 25c for blinds (10 per person should be enough), 2) lots of workhorse chips ($1 for micro, $5 for small) 3) big enough total ($4,045).

    I knew I could count on the poker chip degens to answer a question on a Sunday afternoon lol.

    Thanks!
  • It's a decent breakdown, but do the math. 10 .25c won't work. >:D
  • three years later, still haven't bought chips lol. but i'm here again looking into it as i'm probably going to start building my own table very soon.

    so the plan (now) is to get a set for a $0.25-$0.25 cash game. i can probably only accommodate for 8 people (hell, i probably will never get up to 8 people lol) and i figure that i'll only need around 600 chips to do so.

    here's the breakdown i'm thinking of using:

    $0.25 chip - 300
    $1 chip - 200
    $5 chip - 100
    600 chips total

    is this enough?

    breakdown for buy-ins:

    $20 (min. buy-in): one $5, eleven $1, sixteen $0.25
    x eight players = 8 $5 chips, 88 $1 chips, 128 $0.25 chips total

    $40 (max. buy-in): five $5, eleven $1, sixteen $0.25
    x eight players = 40 $5 chips, 88 $1 chips, 128 $0.25 chips total

    and just in case i can squeeze in ten at max buy-in:

    $40 (max buy-in) x ten players = 50 $5 chips, 111 $1 chips, 160 $0.25 chips

    i think that gives me enough space for rebuys and top ups. are these good?

    chips i'm thinking of buying:

    i'm thinking of getting the dunes commemorative composite chips from thechiproom.com ($0.39 each x 600 = $234 plus tax and shipping)

    here's a link to them: Poker Chips - Composite Chips - Dunes Commemorative - The Chip Room

    i'd love to hear some comments on number of chips and if these chips are worth buying. thanks.
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