$1k fallsview classic seat wanted for action/coaching

Hi everyone,

Im posting this to see if anyone who took advantage of Fallsviews brutal policy and bought multiple vouchers would be willing to sell an extra for a small % of my winnings or an hour or two of MTT coaching. I would enjoy playing this event, but Im not willing to pay a markup on my own tournament buyins out of principle.

Please pm with any questions
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  • PM'ed you on 2p2 Scott. MSN me.
  • Bump, still looking
  • Scotty12 wrote: »
    Bump, still looking

    so many reasons for lol
  • I hope you get your seat Scotty, it was like pulling teeth trying to get my seat for under $1200 but I did it.
  • these seats go for 1500 at fallsview.

    I meet someone at brantford yesterday selling it for $1250.
  • The_Game wrote: »
    these seats go for 1500 at fallsview.

    I meet someone at brantford yesterday selling it for $1250.

    there are some on kijiji in the 1,200-1,300 range.
  • People buying them to resell at $1200+ are pure scum. As I mentioned in my OP, Im not supporting that on principle.

    The blissfully ignorant idiots paying 25%+ markup on a buyin in addition to travel/food costs are an interesting bunch. Im a little too knowledgeable to join that club, so are my friends. The result will be a significantly softer tournament for all players, lets just hope a fish wins instead of profiteering members of the 'poker community.'

    What blows my mind is hordes of dolts paying premiums for a $1k seat, to the point where a mincash will be breakeven after their expenses. Spend $1k more, play the $2500 at face and get infinitely better value. #idiots
  • Hey Scotty

    Have liked some of your posts and such, but did you ever think of buying the seat when they were available?
  • If you missed it, RyanG had some for sale...not sure if they are still available
  • Not sure why you have so much venom for people taking advantage of the free market or people that are willing to pay for it. If you want to direct your issues with anyone...try the poker room. The best way to voice your concerns is directly to the room...and to boycott the room until there are changes.

    Also your I don't see a difference with you coaching or you pay an additional premium for the seat...both are forms of currency.
  • Agree, Scotty, the seats were avail for a long time, just because you missed the boat and are now spouting your mouth off because people are doing the "proper" thing and charging vig because the seats are super hard to come by is your own fault.

    Just be quiet, keep your opinions to yourself, buy the seat, and ship that motherfucker; Then, in your winning speech say fuck you to all the scalpers, hustlers and fallsview or something.

    Much better way then bad mouthing the entire community and every player involved pretty much.

    P.S- see you there.
  • Sometimes I love this forum:)
  • costanza wrote: »

    Much better way then bad mouthing the entire community and every player involved pretty much.
    .

    well, they probably deserve being badmouthed. take advantage of enough retards and the whole community will become notorious
  • Scalping is SOP for ALL events in this Region, Richard . . . Scotty's just pissed that he cannot avoid it this time. Or, more correctly, that his version of the "Premium" has not been deemed sufficient by any Sellers.
  • Milo wrote: »
    Or, more correctly, that his version of the "Premium" has not been deemed sufficient by any Sellers.

    :)
  • We have already had this argument here between Ryan and Scotty over the merits of scalping/not scalping. It's a fact of life here in Canada that there will be scalping for popular events no matter what it is. Price of living in a free enterprise country, and whether we like it or not (kinda like the oldest profession :) ) it's not going away any time soon. If we want to discuss the merits, someone please start a new thread. let's not get it going here again.
    Aformentioned parties have already agreed to disagree..

    I'm with you GTA, I love this forum sometimes... :)
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  • philliivey wrote: »
    Hey Scotty

    Have liked some of your posts and such, but did you ever think of buying the seat when they were available?

    Didn't even know they had went onsale. I was vacationing and at my parents home for longer than expected and put tons on my credit card over the holidays. I also threw a huge party on new years eve for my friends that kept me super busy.

    When I finally got home and saw the thread I read this would be treated as a cash advance, so I paid off my balance + 1100 immediately to get around that (Jan 5 I think.) While waiting for the payment to process and my balance to go -1100, the tickets sold out because of profiteering people exploiting Fallsview's brutal policy
    Not sure why you have so much venom for people taking advantage of the free market or people that are willing to pay for it. If you want to direct your issues with anyone...try the poker room. The best way to voice your concerns is directly to the room...and to boycott the room until there are changes.

    Also your I don't see a difference with you coaching or you pay an additional premium for the seat...both are forms of currency.

    I was offended that someone who I have been generous with in the past tried to rip me off for the maximum. I also think hes pretty stupid for breaking the law using his real name in a public forum.

    I see your point about the currency thing. Its actually funny because the value of what I could teach someone is so much more than the short term gain of an extra couple hundred bucks. However, people are idiots, especially the majority of poker players. Thats why the game is so profitable.
    costanza wrote: »
    Agree, Scotty, the seats were avail for a long time, just because you missed the boat and are now spouting your mouth off because people are doing the "proper" thing and charging vig because the seats are super hard to come by is your own fault.

    Just be quiet, keep your opinions to yourself, buy the seat, and ship that motherfucker; Then, in your winning speech say fuck you to all the scalpers, hustlers and fallsview or something.

    Much better way then bad mouthing the entire community and every player involved pretty much.

    P.S- see you there.

    I would argue breaking the law is quite far from the "proper" thing. Im an outspoken person, keeping my opinions to myself is easier said than done sometimes!

    I will not be shy about letting the casino know how BS this is. From what I've heard, they wont give a shit, and that is unfortunate. If I win, I wont tip a penny.
    Richard~ wrote: »
    well, they probably deserve being badmouthed. take advantage of enough retards and the whole community will become notorious

    This is a big gripe of mine. Poker players are not viewed very highly in our society and things like this only justify that perception.

    If you've played in the WSOP, there are tons of recreational fish and tons of online brats with no social skills and a chip on their shoulder. They sit at the table with their beats headphones and a scowl on their face, oftentimes with a holier than thou attitude towards the fish. Its despicable, especially considering how much better the fish are at the game of life. I am just as quick to call out that behavior at the tables as I am this scalping. It reflects so poorly on the rest of us.

    When a recreational player hears about this tournament and really wants to play it, its worse for poker in the longrun that they have to go through the trouble of locating a scalper and paying a premium for these tickets vs easily getting it from the casino. We have clearly established the fault lies first with the casino, but I've been told anything I say to them will fall on deaf ears.
    Milo wrote: »
    Scalping is SOP for ALL events in this Region, Richard . . . Scotty's just pissed that he cannot avoid it this time. Or, more correctly, that his version of the "Premium" has not been deemed sufficient by any Sellers.

    False, but I'll give you an A for effort.

    If you saw my list of concerts and sporting events attended and the prices I paid, you would probably be surprised to see me making such a huge deal of this situation. The reason I am going so nuts is because its hitting closer to home.
    I don't see how some people don't understand where scotty is coming from. Its one thing to buy a ticket and plan to use it but are willing to sell it at a markup to make money as that is the point of playing in tournaments anyways. Its another to intentionally go and buy a mass amount of tickets wait for it to sell out then go ahead to basically dangle them in front of people who didn't get a chance to buy one yet. Just because you can do it doesn't make it right. However I know bitching about it won't do anything so Ive kept quiet on the matter, but don't understand how people don't get where scott is coming from here.

    Huge +1 to all of this. A big reason I lost my mind about this is because RGH and I have history/friendship going back years which is why my mind was just blown he wanted 15% + $1K cash. I am a very generous person and was insulted that someone I had been generous with in the past valued a scum scalping edge over helping a friend in need.
    No one is arguing that paying a premium to play a poker tournament is stupid. The problem is that he's directing his 'disappointment' towards the wrong people. The people selling the tickets at a mark up, aren't the ones that unnecessary created this market.

    The problem begins and ends with the poker room. If they allow this to happen, and you don't agree with it, then don't support them. Sure this tournament could be soft....but newsflash, most $1k live tournaments are soft.

    Fallsview is to blame for all this. To me, the solution seems rather simple....just add another day 1 to the $1k. If people are buying a $1k ticket for $1.5k...the demand is clearly high enough where you can add another day. The mark up of all the scalper tickets will magically decrease.

    The problem does begin with the poker room, but I dont think it 'ends' there. I do agree fallsview is primarly to blame, and I love your suggestion for an extra starting day. Sadly I doubt it will ever happen.
  • Scotty12 wrote: »

    A big reason I lost my mind about this is because RGH and I have history/friendship going back years which is why my mind was just blown he wanted 15% + $1K cash. I am a very generous person and was insulted that someone I had been generous with in the past valued a scum scalping edge over helping a friend in need.



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  • costanza wrote: »
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    lol, don't bother coming back with that attitude
  • Scotty12 wrote: »
    If I win, I wont tip a penny.

    You playing this event would, likely, be the most hypocritical thing that I have heard on this poker forum. Ever.

    Spouting opinions is great, but actions are what count in defining your character.
  • Heyscotty

    Ahh OK good enough for me I was going to ask if a life issue got in the way but than a shit storm got started LOL :)
  • philliivey wrote: »
    heyscotty

    ahh ok good enough for me i was going to ask if a life issue got in the way but than a shit storm got started lol :)

    qed
  • GTA Poker wrote: »
    You playing this event would, likely, be the most hypocritical thing that I have heard on this poker forum. Ever.

    Spouting opinions is great, but actions are what count in defining your character.

    Your opinion means a great deal to me when you, likely, dont know the definition of the words you are using.

    Just because I disagree with the casino's policy and have a vendetta against scalping, I should sit this one out? Noted.

    Great job assessing my character based off of a few passionate/angry posts on an internet forum.
    philliivey wrote: »
    Heyscotty

    Ahh OK good enough for me I was going to ask if a life issue got in the way but than a shit storm got started LOL :)

    Nah, just general holiday business. When Im not grinding at my home I usually remove myself completely from pokerforums etc. Obviously not a great excuse for failing to work this out in time. I just didnt realize more than a months advance planning was required.
  • Actually surprising to me that a casino could allow a person to purchase multiple tickets. Out here and in Vegas, you need to register with your players card or you just can't register.

    This issue would be easily fixed by the casino........and they have to know it's a problem.

    Understand where Scotty's coming from, but I think the hate should go to Fallsview, and not so much the scalpers.

    Scalpers gonna scalp
  • ryanghall wrote: »
    Get help.

    Great contribution Ryan, very necessary.

    The only 'help' I need is finding a tickets for a fair price because of people like you.

    So fucking pissed I ever gave you advice on poker hands, free jays VIP tickets, or even accepted a ride from you. A relatively insignificant amount of $ is more meaningful than helping someone that has been kind to you for years? Pitiful.

    T8urmoney wrote: »
    Understand where Scotty's coming from, but I think the hate should go to Fallsview, and not so much the scalpers.

    Scalpers gonna scalp

    Believe me, I hate Fallsview's policy first and foremost. It just wont do very much good posting about that in a poker forum, where it has been said many times. They clearly don't care.

    Scalpers are gonna scalp, because they are scum fucks. Its just depressing to see a community member and fellow poker 'pro' sinking to their level.
  • It's clearly Fallsview policy that has created this situation. It's much easier for one entity to fix the problem than it is to assume that every person on earth will stop scalping. So the problem begins and ends with Fallsview. Try twitter/Facebook and other social medians to show display your displeasure. Boycott the event/poker room until there's changes. Why support a room with a policy you total disagree with?

    Your anger is directed mainly to one person. You now know how much he views your friendship...apparently it worth less than the 15% equity you're giving up. So move on. Any additional energy you put into it...will be a waste of your time and energy.
  • I dunno, is it satan's fault everybody is going to hell? you're talking about how it could be fixed, that doesn't make it more morally correct to sell overpriced tickets
  • Don't see scalping as a moral issue. If you don't like it, don't buy it. No one forced you to overpay for something. How is this different from any other business that sells for profit?

    Is it unfair that some people can get the face value price and others can not? Yes, of course. That's why ticketmaster sells limited amount of tickets for concerts/sporting events per transaction. That doesn't solve the problems for tickets in high demand, but it at least curbs the problem and is fair for all people buying tickets in the first place.

    Fallsview on the other hand, has gone out of it's way to create a problem that shouldn't exist. Seems obvious that that will sell out this event no matter how they distribute the tickets. They choose to design a system that let's them sell out quickly without any consideration to the players that play the event.

    There are three entities that can change things:

    A) Scalpers - Good luck converting everyone to curbing this

    B) Police - I sure hope they have better things to do with their time

    C) Fallsview - Their policy artificially created this non-existent problem before.
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