My First Chat Ban on Stars!
I actually never, ever use profanity or hate based language, though I am not afraid to be very condescending in a "polite" way to those who do. Still, I earned my first chat ban on Stars (for 3 hours). Happened in a DoN today (tourney number 171277929 for those inclined to see it all) , and I will filter out the betting to show the full context of the chat. The hand that sparked it all will be posted at the end, ironically a fairly standard hand vs a bad player.
Kind of wish I got my first temp chat ban on a chat that better deserved it :P I will not deny there have been times where I certainly expected it (not so much this time though).
Anyway...
aaashipit: gay
aaashipit: call
aaashipit said, "u r"
aaashipit said, "gay"
Monteroy said, "look up these two words"
Monteroy said, "pot"
Monteroy said, "odds"
Monteroy said, "plus my note on you is "I love shoving with draws""
T-Dubs82 said, "and maybe gay and call too lol"
Monteroy said, "so no I am not folding pair lots of overcards and nut flush draw there"
aaashipit said, "im gonna shave a draw in your mouth after i flop the nuts on your chin"
T-Dubs82 said, "oh my"
Monteroy said, "you may want men on men se x acts"
Monteroy said, "I dont"
Monteroy said, "and regardless of your tendencies"
Monteroy said, "you are a dead money guy"
aaashipit said, "then why did u screw me with no vaseline"
Monteroy said, "know your role"
Monteroy: your lifetime stats are fitting as well
Monteroy: thanks for playing
Monteroy: have a great day
Monteroy: charming fellow
Amanita: lol
pidoublet: lol
The hand that caused all the problems, even if he had the straight its a close but ok call ( I am a 59/41 dog assuming he does not have a flush draw as well), and he certainly plays all sorts of hands in that spot, though he played his hand fine.
PokerStars Game #29289627080: Tournament #171277929, $10.00+$0.40 Omaha Pot Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/06/12 14:19:19 ET
Table '171277929 1' 10-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: imurvariance (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: Amanita (3010 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerAces85 (1420 in chips)
Seat 4: RollTideRoll (1540 in chips)
Seat 5: Monteroy (1460 in chips)
Seat 6: pidoublet (1270 in chips)
Seat 7: aaashipit (1540 in chips)
Seat 8: T-Dubs82 (970 in chips)
Seat 9: oscardoug (1090 in chips)
Seat 10: gilazam (1220 in chips)
oscardoug: posts small blind 15
gilazam: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [Ad Kd 5s Js]
imurvariance: folds
Amanita: folds
PokerAces85: calls 30
RollTideRoll: folds
Monteroy: raises 105 to 135
pidoublet: folds
aaashipit: calls 135
T-Dubs82: folds
oscardoug: folds
gilazam: folds
PokerAces85: calls 105
*** FLOP *** [6h 2d 5d]
PokerAces85: checks
Monteroy: bets 330
aaashipit: raises 1075 to 1405 and is all-in
PokerAces85: folds
Monteroy: calls 995 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (80) returned to aaashipit
*** TURN *** [6h 2d 5d] [Jh]
*** RIVER *** [6h 2d 5d Jh] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Monteroy: shows [Ad Kd 5s Js] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
aaashipit: shows [Ts Td 7h 8d] (a pair of Tens)
Monteroy collected 3100 from pot
Stars email
We are writing to inform you that we have suspended your chat privilege for 3 hours as a result of your chat on 2009/06/12.
The use of vulgarity when addressing another player is not allowed.
Your chat privilege will be reinstated automatically once the suspension period is over. There is no need to write to support.
Our goal at PokerStars is to be a fun place to play, where everyone can feel comfortable. Abuse and other disruptions to the games takes away from everyone's enjoyment, and therefore will not be tolerated.
We thank you for your cooperation.
Regards,
PokerStars Chat Moderation Team
The following chat was observed
you may want men on men se x acts
you are a dead money guy
know your role
your lifetime stats are fitting as well
thanks for playing
have a great day
Kind of wish I got my first temp chat ban on a chat that better deserved it :P I will not deny there have been times where I certainly expected it (not so much this time though).
Anyway...
aaashipit: gay
aaashipit: call
aaashipit said, "u r"
aaashipit said, "gay"
Monteroy said, "look up these two words"
Monteroy said, "pot"
Monteroy said, "odds"
Monteroy said, "plus my note on you is "I love shoving with draws""
T-Dubs82 said, "and maybe gay and call too lol"
Monteroy said, "so no I am not folding pair lots of overcards and nut flush draw there"
aaashipit said, "im gonna shave a draw in your mouth after i flop the nuts on your chin"
T-Dubs82 said, "oh my"
Monteroy said, "you may want men on men se x acts"
Monteroy said, "I dont"
Monteroy said, "and regardless of your tendencies"
Monteroy said, "you are a dead money guy"
aaashipit said, "then why did u screw me with no vaseline"
Monteroy said, "know your role"
Monteroy: your lifetime stats are fitting as well
Monteroy: thanks for playing
Monteroy: have a great day
Monteroy: charming fellow
Amanita: lol
pidoublet: lol
The hand that caused all the problems, even if he had the straight its a close but ok call ( I am a 59/41 dog assuming he does not have a flush draw as well), and he certainly plays all sorts of hands in that spot, though he played his hand fine.
PokerStars Game #29289627080: Tournament #171277929, $10.00+$0.40 Omaha Pot Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/06/12 14:19:19 ET
Table '171277929 1' 10-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: imurvariance (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: Amanita (3010 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerAces85 (1420 in chips)
Seat 4: RollTideRoll (1540 in chips)
Seat 5: Monteroy (1460 in chips)
Seat 6: pidoublet (1270 in chips)
Seat 7: aaashipit (1540 in chips)
Seat 8: T-Dubs82 (970 in chips)
Seat 9: oscardoug (1090 in chips)
Seat 10: gilazam (1220 in chips)
oscardoug: posts small blind 15
gilazam: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [Ad Kd 5s Js]
imurvariance: folds
Amanita: folds
PokerAces85: calls 30
RollTideRoll: folds
Monteroy: raises 105 to 135
pidoublet: folds
aaashipit: calls 135
T-Dubs82: folds
oscardoug: folds
gilazam: folds
PokerAces85: calls 105
*** FLOP *** [6h 2d 5d]
PokerAces85: checks
Monteroy: bets 330
aaashipit: raises 1075 to 1405 and is all-in
PokerAces85: folds
Monteroy: calls 995 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (80) returned to aaashipit
*** TURN *** [6h 2d 5d] [Jh]
*** RIVER *** [6h 2d 5d Jh] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Monteroy: shows [Ad Kd 5s Js] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
aaashipit: shows [Ts Td 7h 8d] (a pair of Tens)
Monteroy collected 3100 from pot
Stars email
We are writing to inform you that we have suspended your chat privilege for 3 hours as a result of your chat on 2009/06/12.
The use of vulgarity when addressing another player is not allowed.
Your chat privilege will be reinstated automatically once the suspension period is over. There is no need to write to support.
Our goal at PokerStars is to be a fun place to play, where everyone can feel comfortable. Abuse and other disruptions to the games takes away from everyone's enjoyment, and therefore will not be tolerated.
We thank you for your cooperation.
Regards,
PokerStars Chat Moderation Team
The following chat was observed
you may want men on men se x acts
you are a dead money guy
know your role
your lifetime stats are fitting as well
thanks for playing
have a great day
Comments
Good job. Well worth the meaningless penalty.
Anyways, i bought into another SnG, and this asshole comes into the chat box as an observer and tells all of the players that they should not play against me as I had made sexually suggestive comments to his 13 yr old son!
I was speechless!! and madder than hell! I kept my cool and commented to all the other players, that this guy was some kind of psycho sore loser and that I had just beaten him in a tournament. He continued to tell all that he was in the process of getting Full Tilt admin. to either press charges against me, or give up my personal information so that he could do it himself! Luckily, other players at the table started questioning why his 13 yr old would be on the poker site, and why the kid would be "chatting" with me when it was he, who was playing in the tournament. He finally disappeared, and the other players at the table gave supportive comments to me. I was so rattled by this that I intentionally bailed from the tourney and contacted Full Tilt admin to check the chat for both tournaments, and ban this fucker for life!!!
They sent me an email saying that they had suspended his account for "an appropriate amount of time given the seriousness of the offence"...You guessed it....3 hours!!!! It just pisses me off that nothing more was done about this.
Poker Stars Card Room Rules:
2. Abusive, foul, or inappropriate chat will not be tolerated.
Pretty broad. I would not consider the sex comment to be over the line.
"you are a dead money guy" ... "know your role" definitely rates as abusive ... and funny.
Yeah - as long as these sh**-talking a**holes are regularly paying even the smallest amount of rake, the sites will bend over backwards to NOT risk losing their business. Unfortunately, these guys need to be busted for infractions a number of times before any real penalty is levied.
A year ago, I came across a really vile talker from Montreal (using a Canadiens logo as his icon) on PokerStars. Although all his crap (your sister takes it up the azz, etc, etc...) was directed at players other than me, it really pissed me off. I felt like he was giving all Canadians a bad rep, and so I reported him. First offense - chat ban lasting 24 hours or less.
Knowing Stars would do next to nothing on a first (as far as I knew it) offense and given that the guy's horrible behaviour was 100% unprovoked (therefore likely to happen again soon), I put him on my buddy list.
Found him on a table the next day. Within less than one minute - the same type of disgusting talk. Reported him. Second chat ban lasted ??
Found him on a table a week later. Chat available to him again. In less than 5 minutes - same crap. Reported him. Third chat ban lasted ??
After being busted 3 times in the span of a week, the guy probably thinks Stars is watching him. I did come across him 3-4 times over the next few months. Virtually no chat of any kind and no sign at all of abusive stuff. Maybe Stars finally threatens to get tough with these twits on a fourth offense?
He thinks you bad beat him... I love Omaha
Mark
I've never really played Omaha, but from watching, isn't it kind of call to the river and hope you full house don't lose to quads?
Saying you are going to rape someone's sister? Whatever, that has probably been in a bad rap song. I never find things like that actually offensive other then they show a complete lack of creativity and a serious lack of brain power. I am also always impressed when a guy does the unintentionally ironic combo of " u r a fag" and follows it up with how he plans on having another player suck his balls.
I was surprised that this was the chat I was banned for. Maybe it was the lifetime stats thing but I am pretty careful never to be specific on that area (ie: if I see someone has lost a ton lately I will ask "so maam, how have you been doing in these tourneys lately?" I do not see how my "sex" comment would be offensive as it was not passing any direct judgment so much as rephrasing what he essentially said in a simpler form he would understand.
The irony of it usually is the guy who started this is the typical trash talker of his type, a single table playing bad player. Often they are bad when they do not know how bad they are (as they know what "good starting hands are" but will not get that folding to a 40 chip bet into a 1200 chip pot makes no sense). In tournaments you see this all the time when people have no concept at all of adjusting their play based on the payout structure of the tournament.
Anyway, overall I thought it was a bit entertaining.