Fallsview Variance

Fallsview 5/5

SB - $350
UTG (me) - $875 (AsAh)
Button - $490


UTG - call ($5) [limped since the table has tended to be action heavy, figured i could repop once someone raised]
3 MP limpers ($15)
Button - raise to $25 (has stacked off three times already, including 400 to me once ... just likes raising)
SB - call $25
BB - fold
UTG - raise to $80 total [raising enough to clear people out but with the hopes of getting the Button heads up]
All MPs fold
Button Calls ($55 more for $80 total)
SB folds

Pot - $200

Flop Ks Qs 5d

UTG - bet $120
Button - all-in ($290 raise for total $410)
UTG - call all-in $290

Pot - $1020

Turn 8s [Ks Qs 5d]

River 4h [8s Ks Qs 5d]

UTG (me) - As Ah (pair of Aces)
Button - 6s 2s (flush)


Officially the largest pot i've ever played would have been nice to win. I'm sure i'll get some comments about such an amateur move of limping Aces, but it just worked with the style of the table. There was a decent chance one of the next 2-3 players (all agressive) would have raised to between $25-35 with 3-4 callers in between, meaning i could have re-poped all-in and taken down the $200-$300 sitting in the pot uncontested.

Played for another hour or so, rebuilt my stack back to my original $500 buy-in and called it a day.

Comments

  • Wow! He invested essentially 1/5 of his stack with 62suited???? I hope you made it back off him after.
  • Chugs wrote: »
    Officially the largest pot i've ever played would have been nice to win. I'm sure i'll get some comments about such an amateur move of limping Aces, but it just worked with the style of the table. .

    Meh. Given table dynamics, I like it.
  • not sure what the problem is? I want my opponents to push all their chips in the middle with a flush draw any day of the week, and also call $80 pre-flop with garbage. These are the kind of players you make the majority of your money from. They are worth their weight in gold (to you).

    btw, I think you played the aces ok. You got the hand down to one other player who called you with rags. Just got unlucky.
  • heh I love stacking aces with 62, when someone telegraphs their hand like that, well done!

    edit: oh, you hand the aces...bad beat
  • Not much you can do there....definitely Fallsview Variance. I even liked the 80 dollar check raise. The fact that he still calls really tells you he is never folding unless he totally misses the board. I think even if he has a 6 on the flop he pays you off.
  • GTA Poker wrote: »
    heh I love stacking aces with 62, when someone telegraphs their hand like that, well done!

    you keep on stacking aces with 62s, especially heads up.
  • GTA Poker wrote: »
    heh I love stacking aces with 62, when someone telegraphs their hand like that, well done!

    edit: oh, you hand the aces...bad beat
    Telegraphed or not it was definitely a -ev play for the button. The 6,2 guy will NOT win enough in the long run to make money doing this. As mention he got 20% of his stack in preflop with trash (as an 80% to 16% dog) and then the rest of his stack in on the flop with the flush draw as a 61% to 31% dog. As noted he had already stacked off more than once, probably doing the same thing.
    Sounds like someone watching too much high stakes poker, without the skill to match ...

    I also think you played it ok, given that you were pretty sure you would be raised and if you could get away from it post flop if it wasn't.
    Would be interested in knowing how GTA would have suggested playing it in Chug's place?
  • compuease wrote: »
    Telegraphed or not it was definitely a -ev play for the button. The 6,2 guy will NOT win enough in the long run to make money doing this. As mention he got 20% of his stack in preflop with trash (as an 80% to 16% dog) ...

    might be justified if you consider the second raise as a separate decision, since it only cost him $55 to potentially make another $400ish.
  • don't mind the limp with aces, but probably would have made my 3bet a bit bigger than yours: that being said, the guy is clearly a donk and got lucky.
  • No strategy in BBV donks.

    (+1 on the "played well" - just dont lose next time)
  • I think the big thing here is that you limped with aces because you were playing the players at the table. It wasn't something where you limped in hoping for a bunch of limpers that would all hit one pair on the flop and you would somehow have them hold. You limped knowing that someone would raise hard and you could reraise. The intent was to play back at someone, not to let them see a cheap/free flop. One of the few times I'll say it was a good plan to limp in with AA.
  • I was being sarcastic. I would limp aces all day at certain tables. In this case I do not know all of the stacks, but with $100 in the pot I likely just limp shove or limp raise to $200. As played it worked out well except you got unlucky...I would shove the flop blind in that spot.
  • Nice hand Halibut.
  • Cerberus wrote: »
    One of the few times I'll say it was a good plan to limp in with AA.

    ehrm no, there are tonnes of spots to limp AA in cash games these days -- you just have to figure out why you are doing it
  • Looks good, you just got unlucky.
  • I definitely put it in the category of variance, since I feel i played the hand okay with two possible exceptions, but really its just a matter of how you vary your play.

    1. Could have made the re-raise larger say around $120 (might have lost the button, but considering his cards i don't think i really want to lose him)

    2. considering I would have called any raise any ways on the flop maybe i should have open pushed, but again I think I lose a player who is a large dog, so do i really want that. I was about 25% in my mind to just shove at that spot.

    To bad i won't get another chance for live play for another 3 months, i'll want a chance to get that variance swinging my way.
  • Wetts1012 wrote: »
    No strategy in BBV donks.


    Did you people miss this?
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