Brag - Cracking the older, angry-all-the-time players

Mchempstein

In my live 0.25/0.50 NLH matches, there are always several older fellas who are dead serious about their money. They complain about everything. They complain about me more than anybody, because I'm the Gus Hansen type who uses smallball strategy. Near the end of the night Thursday, two of the grumps got burned.

First to act folds. I call 0.50 :5d :3d

Player three calls 0.50 :8s :8d

Small blind calls 0.50 :ah:as

Big blind checks. :9c :10c

Flop comes :8c :4c :6h

Small blind goes all-in to defend his aces 49.50

I smell the pocket pair and go over the top all-in 81.25

Player three calls all-in 39.25

Big blind announces he thinks a higher draw was alive, and folds.

Turn is :8c :4c :6h :10d

River is :8c :4c :6h :10d :2d

My straight plays for $90.25 :6h :5d :4c :3d :2d

They were PISSED, lol.

screenman

Thanks for the example of what a bad player you really are.

Graham

I really don't get the play, but I guess it worked for you here. Your open ended straight draw is dominated by flush draws, any pair, etc. What was the logic behind your raise? You knew you only were like a 10% favorite to win, right?

Mchempstein

screenman wrote: »

Thanks for the example of what a bad player you really are.

I agree that it was a horrible play. I was merely up a lot that night and trying to prove that they needed to loosen up a bit. Pokers supposed to be fun, not a chore.

Graham wrote: »

I really don't get the play, but I guess it worked for you here. Your open ended straight draw is dominated by flush draws, any pair, etc. What was the logic behind your raise? You knew you only were like a 10% favorite to win, right?

My main goal was to isolate the aces. For all other purposes, my reads were way off and I fully expected to lose. Somehow I didn't, heh.

compuease

First of all AA deserved to get cracked, no raise, huge overbet on flop when only someone who is already ahead calls, and U getting it all in on a non nut draw for a small preflop pot? That's not what I call a smart play... Sounds like a whole table of weak players.. Can we get in?

Oh.. and Gus wouldn't approve.....

Hobbes

Going over the top with a pair of 8 and no kicker aint small ball.

Where do these guys play?

BBC Z

I'm the Gus Hansen type who uses smallball strategy

Ahhh The 'Gus Hansen SmallBall' Strategy..

Also called the 'I play like shit but will get lucky every once in awhile so the results make me think that I'm good' strategy

Oh my god, I wrote the above without even reading the rest of the thread.. I just did and there's puke EVERYWHERE!

jdAA88

BBC Z wrote: »

Ahhh The 'Gus Hansen SmallBall' Strategy..

Also called the 'I play like shit but will get lucky every once in awhile so the results make me think that I'm good' strategy

BAHAHAHA!! Wow, I would love to play in this game, what a bunch of fish, yourself included OP....

compuease

And player 3 (flopped top set) was the only one who played it ok... and got unlucky...

According to Cardplayers calculator after the flop, when the money got in, here are the favorite %'s...

player 3 (8s,8d) - 52.8% to win
BB (9c,10c) - 36% to win
YOU (5d,3d) - 7.3% to win
SB (Ah,As) - 3.9% to win

So the 2nd favorite (the BB) folded and you with the 7% chance to win think you played it ok?

Just trying to understand your thought process.... other than the typical, I'm macho and I can push these old guys around... lol.... dime a dozen....

Cerberus

I love people that call it the "______ Small Ball" strategy because apparently it makes it ok to play like a moron if you can name a pro that you saw do it once without understanding the reasoning behind why they played like that.

I won't argue about getting people to loosen up about things as we can all take it too seriously at times. That play won't do it.

BBC Z

Just trying to understand your thought process....

I ran the post through my 'brain activity detector' and it came up empty.