Beat - Against the Blind Maniac
In my short poker career, I have only come across this type of player twice. Basically they go all-in pre-flop blind with any two cards or raise blind pre-flop for their full stack. If they lose, they just rebuy and rebuy. You got to love gamblers!
$1/$2 max $200; second player to my right, has been at my table about 30 minutes and is raising pre-flop $15-$25 on every hand blind. He typically only looks at his cards after the flop if he is raised. He has burned through about $400 so far and has about $125 in front of him.
He is on the button and I am in the BB when I get dealt K9c; he has raised pre-flop $15 blind and it is folded around to me and I decide to call. The flop comes 268 with two clubs. I make it $40 to go w my two over cards and the flush draw. He looks at me and pushes the remaining $110, still without looking at his cards. Of course I call. He has 97 off and hits a 7 on the turn. I lose $125.
Unfortunately, I am pretty much card dead for the next 30 minutes and this guy continues to burn off chips to other players at my table (who are much luckier and are getting decent hands). Once he is down about $1k, he calls it a night.
Just wondered if anyone else has come across these types of players before. What are your minimum starting hand requirements in this situation? Its a good opportunity to make some easy money but its also easy to lose your entire stack as well as they do hit every so often.
$1/$2 max $200; second player to my right, has been at my table about 30 minutes and is raising pre-flop $15-$25 on every hand blind. He typically only looks at his cards after the flop if he is raised. He has burned through about $400 so far and has about $125 in front of him.
He is on the button and I am in the BB when I get dealt K9c; he has raised pre-flop $15 blind and it is folded around to me and I decide to call. The flop comes 268 with two clubs. I make it $40 to go w my two over cards and the flush draw. He looks at me and pushes the remaining $110, still without looking at his cards. Of course I call. He has 97 off and hits a 7 on the turn. I lose $125.
Unfortunately, I am pretty much card dead for the next 30 minutes and this guy continues to burn off chips to other players at my table (who are much luckier and are getting decent hands). Once he is down about $1k, he calls it a night.
Just wondered if anyone else has come across these types of players before. What are your minimum starting hand requirements in this situation? Its a good opportunity to make some easy money but its also easy to lose your entire stack as well as they do hit every so often.
Comments
why did you overbet the pot OOP on the flop? i think a CR push works better for you here.
i doubt i call PF in the BB if no one else is in. do you think K high is good if you get nothing on the flop? do you think you have any fold equity?
you will have tons of hands against him WITH position so i would be much more inclined to play one of those with a speculative holding.
or just do a flipament with any hand better than J8, Q6, K4, 22, etc.
most definitely didn't look; he typically wouldn't raise after the flop but would call a bet (kind of wierd logic I know); I figured the bet would get him to push or fold, which is what happened. I was getting shitty cards and with my BB invested, I figured I would take a shot. If I didn't bet, he would typically check it down. K9suited is definitely better than your average starting hand. After that flop, I feel I have the best hand with plenty of outs or king high is ahead.
I realize the frustration of the situation, because you never know when the tap will be turned off and realistically you can never really get into a 100% situation, so you try to balance the limited time offer with not wanting to just be a foolish gambler.
Thing is , if you want the bigger rewards you probably have to take the risk, and I am not thrilled with the out of position call with K9 even against a blind hand.
Now, if he is raising to 15 then all in shoving blind EVERY hand post flop, then yeah some speculative cold calling preflop makes sense, but here even though you flopped a decent draw, how much did your position improve even over a blind hand?
You are about a 3/2 favorite if he flopped a pair, maybe a little more if he has A high and maybe 3/1 over a random hand, and that is after a decent flop. The low cards on the flop are not definitely good for you since his hand is random?
You also have king high if you do not improve, so you are pushing on a non made hand with a great draw. A lot of people lose stacks vs maniacs in this scenario.
You got your money in good, but I am not sure cold calling preflop did enough (pretend that same hand happened 100 times) to make that the best play in terms of EV. Honestly, I am not really sure, but I'm kind of with pkrface in the flipaments mentality here I think.