4 Way All-In w/ Royal Flush draw at FV
Preflop there is an EP who raises to $15 ($10 more than the BB). I call w/ K 10 s (very marginal hand, I know). MP & LP call too.
Flop is A J 7, A & J are s (giving me a Royal Flush draw). EP raiser bets $40 into $70 pot I think. I was debating raising but decide to just call. MP raises to $120 ($80 on top of the $40 bet). LP raises all-in (he had $400 I think). EP calls. I call. MP calls (pot was laying crazy odds).
Turn is a blank, but I river a spade. EP had JJ (flopped set), MP had 2 7 s (pair & flush draw on flop), LP had A 7 (2 pair on flop). I rake in a $1300 pot I think.
In hindsight, I think not raising the flop helped build a bigger pot. If I had raised, I don't know what MP 2 7 s does (maybe he'll think his flush draw is no good, but he did call preflop w/ 2 7 so who knows). If I raised & MP still raised all-in, LP has to fold IMO (eg EP bet, I raise & MP goes all-in, he has to fold 2 pair IMO). In either scenario, 1 of them folds if I raised the flop IMO.
I know I was so lucky. I call w/ a very marginal hand preflop (I would've surely folded if he raised to $25 instead of $15 preflop, I likely fold to even $20 preflop), flop a great draw & get tons of action to build a big pot for my great draw. Then I suckout at the river. It was the perfect storm.
Flop is A J 7, A & J are s (giving me a Royal Flush draw). EP raiser bets $40 into $70 pot I think. I was debating raising but decide to just call. MP raises to $120 ($80 on top of the $40 bet). LP raises all-in (he had $400 I think). EP calls. I call. MP calls (pot was laying crazy odds).
Turn is a blank, but I river a spade. EP had JJ (flopped set), MP had 2 7 s (pair & flush draw on flop), LP had A 7 (2 pair on flop). I rake in a $1300 pot I think.
In hindsight, I think not raising the flop helped build a bigger pot. If I had raised, I don't know what MP 2 7 s does (maybe he'll think his flush draw is no good, but he did call preflop w/ 2 7 so who knows). If I raised & MP still raised all-in, LP has to fold IMO (eg EP bet, I raise & MP goes all-in, he has to fold 2 pair IMO). In either scenario, 1 of them folds if I raised the flop IMO.
I know I was so lucky. I call w/ a very marginal hand preflop (I would've surely folded if he raised to $25 instead of $15 preflop, I likely fold to even $20 preflop), flop a great draw & get tons of action to build a big pot for my great draw. Then I suckout at the river. It was the perfect storm.
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Nope. Hero is either a slight favourite or a slight dog on the flop. Get as much in as possible.
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JJ is a monster and knows people will be drawing for a flus
72 is a moron who flopped good so he is not leaving
K10 (you) standard call imo at fallsview because 9/10 when you flop K or 10 you are good. You are definitely not leaving.
JJ played his hand wrong only raising to 25.....any PP over 10s at FV for me is an auto-raise to 40-60 bucks....been in these situations too many times with PP only to have crap follow me down the river....lol
I rather take a small pot with a PP then try to win a huge one.
[Grabs lawn chair]
So what you are saying is that in the 4 years you've been a member here, you've learned nothing.
No action on 4th St. or I take it you had everyone covered?
Either way the hand is fine. EP didn't raise enough said.
JJ only raised to 15, not 25. I actually would've folded to a raise of 25 in my position (no other callers yet, no juicy odds). I'm generally tight-agg.
Every 1 is already all-in on the flop. LP reraised all-in, EP called, I had about same as LP ($400), & MP had less.
Ok, I'm not a nl cash game player although I do beat up on the Fallsview 2/5 when I head down. I'm a SnG player where its about fold equity.
We have an ep raiser who cbets with players behind us, not everyone who plays 5/5 at Fallsview sucks..but we have zero fold equity here..So are you sure we are jamming a draw here against this many players when we can call realitively cheaply?
yes because I love money.
Don't think about it terms of draw vs made hand but as pot equity for each dollar that goes in on that street. Hero is on a draw to the nut straight, nut flush and the pure royal nuts. Hero is looking at winning 50% of the time, regardless of the number of players on the flop. Ergo, Keep as many players in as possible for as much money as possible.