Why I stopped playing SnG's.

zunni74zunni74
in Brags, Beats & Variance
All 3 hands happened within 10 hands of each other

Hand 1:

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: t890
Hero (MP2): t3230
CO: t3545
BTN: t910
SB: t1230
BB: t2715
UTG: t1290
UTG+1: t1190

Pre Flop: Hero is MP2 with A:diamond: K:club:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t400, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1200, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls t790 all in

Flop: (t2680) Q:diamond: K:diamond: Q:heart:(2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t2680) 3:diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t2680) T:heart:(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t2680
Hero shows Ad Kc (two pair, Kings and Queens)
UTG+1 shows As Qs (three of a kind, Queens)
UTG+1 wins t2680

Hand 2:

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t890
Hero (UTG+1): t2040
MP1: t3945
MP2: t910
CO: t1130
BTN: t2315
SB: t1090
BB: t2680

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with K:club: A:heart:
1 fold, Hero raises to t600, 4 folds, SB raises to t1065 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls t465

Flop: (t2530) Q:spade: 2:heart: K:spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t2530) 8:diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t2530) J:diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t2530
Hero shows Kc Ah (a pair of Kings)
SB shows Jh Kh (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
SB wins t2530


Hand 3

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t1390
Hero (UTG+1): t975
MP1: t2885
MP2: t1470
CO: t630
BTN: t2815
SB: t2655
BB: t2180

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with A:diamond: K:club:
1 fold, Hero raises to t950 all in, MP1 calls t950, 5 folds

Flop: (t2400) 8:heart: Q:club: T:club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t2400) 8:spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t2400) 8:club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t2400
Hero shows Ad Kc (three of a kind, Eights)
MP1 shows 7s 7c (a full house, Eights full of Sevens)
MP1 wins t2400

BRAG- Got AKo 3 times in 10 hands
Beat - Got outdrawn twice and lost a flip on the third.
Variance - didn't slit my wrist

Comments

  • KristyKristy
    sf rigged, tinfoil hats engaged!

    (bad luck zunni)
  • GrahamGraham
    Hand 1... pretty standard... guy was committed
    Hand 2... Unlucky and Rigged obv
    Hand 3... You were a slight underdog and after seeing what AK did to you on the last 2 hands, why do you just open shove it? AKos can be beat by a lot of hands.

    I don't understand why you think it is best to get all your chips in pre-flop or on the flop, because when you do this, then u have to rely on an element of luck to win the hand.

    Regardless, of that... Unlucky ;)
  • HobbesHobbes
    Graham wrote: »

    I don't understand why you think it is best to get all your chips in pre-flop or on the flop, because when you do this, then u have to rely on an element of luck to win the hand.

    They were at 100/200.
  • FalkyBonesFalkyBones
    This situation occurs in virtually every sng
    I play in. Very often I'm the one in your situation.
    Get used to it bro, you're playing a low stakes game.
    People like to gamble (make mistakes) because they
    have very little $ invested, the cost of 2 tim hortons coffees.
  • ConfusedONEConfusedONE
    FalkyBones wrote: »
    the cost of 2 tim hortons coffees.
    someone spot me 2 timmy's til tuesday :D
  • zunni74zunni74
    Graham wrote: »
    I don't understand why you think it is best to get all your chips in pre-flop or on the flop, because when you do this, then u have to rely on an element of luck to win the hand.

    Regardless, of that... Unlucky ;)

    Just saw this again, thought I'd respond...

    Several reasons,

    1) This is a $3.00 SnG, players are generally bad and as you can see will call all-in's with hands like AQ (expected because he was committed) and KJ. Great opportunities to pick up stacks of chips with premium hands.
    2) Knowing my hand is likely to be higher than their pushing range especially short stacked (again due to number 1) This was true in 2 out of 3 cases and I was racing on the third.
    3) Because these are turbo SnG's when you get a premium hand, you have to push the action otherwise quickly escalating blinds will eat you up. You need to try to accumulate chips early and often. So even if they fold, you get the blinds (and very shortly after that blinds/antes).
  • zunni74zunni74
    FalkyBones wrote: »
    This situation occurs in virtually every sng
    I play in. Very often I'm the one in your situation.
    Get used to it bro, you're playing a low stakes game.
    People like to gamble (make mistakes) because they
    have very little $ invested, the cost of 2 tim hortons coffees.

    The post wasn't about the beats persay.. It was more about the frequency of AKo in a weird beating the odds kind of a way (within 10 hands, what are the odds on that), combined with how many times it didn't stand up even though it was the dominating hand preflop.

    I can handle having AKo go down in a blaze of glory but 3 times.. in 10 hands.. in 1 SnG...
  • ReefAquariumReefAquarium
    A big part of AK's value is Fold Equity. In a tourney where nobody folds... you must devalue AK and all other nonsuited hands.
  • zunni74zunni74
    ReefAquarium wrote: »
    A big part of AK's value is Fold Equity. In a tourney where nobody folds... you must devalue AK and all other nonsuited hands.

    Not sure where I got the 'value' of AK wrong in any of those 3.

    Are you saying that you wouldn't like:

    AK vs KJ

    or

    AK vs, AQ ??

    Situations where you have your oppt dominated?

    Even when I got called in the third place I knew unless he had AA or KK (unlikely) that it was at worst a coinflip.
  • westside8westside8
    Since when did BBV section became strat talk section?
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