Beat - Imperial Palace 1/2NL

Grinding it out for about 4 hours at this point in, bought in short for 100 sitting on about 270 at this point. Table image is tight, players are mostly lag with a couple of calling stations.

About 45 min has gone by at this point and being completely card dead when I look down at A10c on the button. 3 players ahead limp, I raise to 12 (the standard raise it would seem) blinds call and the other 3 call. 6 to the flop.

Flop: Qd Kc 5c.

Lag BB bets 25 (he has seen many pots and has been caught trying to steal before), loose passive calls, calling station calls, I call

Turn: 4c (Bingo) Lag BB best 25, call, call I bump it to 50. Lag Folds LP calls, Calling station calls.

River: 2c LP checks, Calling station pushes for $69. I call, LP folds.

I was worried on that card but obviously not folding. Of course he turns over the 36c for the nut straight flush, thanks for the spanking, you forgot to kiss me goodbye.

I really don't think I could have pushed him off his cards without raising pre-flop significantly more and taking down the 12 in the pot, in hindsight I should have taken the 12.

Comments

  • Dunno who you are, but I'm in Vegas 1-11. Wanna drink?
  • isnork wrote: »
    Lag BB best 25, call, call I bump it to 50.
    Min-raises make baby jesus cry. That's why you lost the hand.

    /g2
  • g2 wrote: »
    Min-raises make baby jesus cry. That's why you lost the hand.

    /g2

    This dude was calling everything I really don't think he was going to fold with a made flush anyways (second day at the table with him) I was hoping for some action but you may be right, the board pairing could have taken me out as well.
  • isnork wrote: »
    This dude was calling everything I really don't think he was going to fold with a made flush anyways
    Then shove your stack in and get paid.

    /g2
  • BBC Z wrote: »
    Dunno who you are, but I'm in Vegas 1-11. Wanna drink?
    BBC Z I am on the wagon right now (Vegas a couple of weeks back was not a good scene) but you will likely find me a the IP poker room every evening this week and happy to grab some type of beverage with you, I am flying out Friday night. Think "Marine" and you will likely be able to spot me or ask one of the dealers where John is.
  • What the heck was he thinking pre-flop... pretty sick.
  • Graham wrote: »
    What the heck was he thinking pre-flop... pretty sick.

    Implied odds? *shrugs*

    Is it just me, or does anyone else think being last to act on the flop, a shove as a semi-bluff is a line you would consider taking?
  • There was already $247 in the pot when the action got to you in the turn with three callers. With that many callers, you needed to raise more than the minimum $25 to protect your Ace-high flush which is still vulnerable. If I had a set, two pair or OESF draw, it would be a no-brainer for me to call your raise for only $25 even if you showed your flush. A raise putting one or more of the callers all-in such as the calling station's $94 would have been better. Without getting results-oriented in this hand, you gave the calling station the proper odds to chase only two outs and he made the right call.

    As for Imperial Palace, is the rake 10% with maximum $5, plus a $1 promotions rake? What are their promotions besides cracking AA/KK? Is their comp still $2/hour and the maximum buy-in $200? I'm planning to play most of my cash games at IP in July unless I find a casino with a lower rake or has more :fish:.
  • talk about a flash back; same situation at Rama. Although I let the other guy catch his full house on the river against my nut flush. Got to make em pay to see another card. Although this guy was really tricky as he checked the boat to me, I raised and he re-raised all-in. Of course I called.

    One word, "chips" :(
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    There was already $247 in the pot when the action got to you in the turn with three callers. With that many callers, you needed to raise more than the minimum $25 to protect your Ace-high flush which is still vulnerable. If I had a set, two pair or OESF draw, it would be a no-brainer for me to call your raise for only $25 even if you showed your flush. A raise putting one or more of the callers all-in such as the calling station's $94 would have been better. Without getting results-oriented in this hand, you gave the calling station the proper odds to chase only two outs and he made the right call.

    As for Imperial Palace, is the rake 10% with maximum $5, plus a $1 promotions rake? What are their promotions besides cracking AA/KK? Is their comp still $2/hour and the maximum buy-in $200? I'm planning to play most of my cash games at IP in July unless I find a casino with a lower rake or has more :fish:.
    I honestly think unless I pushed pre-flop there was no chance this guy was leaving, he had been felted twice the night before with his "choice" of cards to play. This guy aside, thanks for the feedback, turn should have been a push, too much out there to take me out.

    IP is still 5+1, AA/KK is between 8-11AM only, Comp is still 2/hr, Harrah's bad beat jackpot is still going (Actually was at 101,000 up until 11:30 yesterday when it hit at Flamingo everyone got paid $729 at all properties, damn conference). Max buy in is $300. They dropped their high hand board earlier this month, moving to a spin the wheel for all high hands (both hole cards must play), apparently they were loosing too much $ paying out the AA/KK in the morning so they had to drop something and killed this. I saw one woman yesterday hit Quad A's spun the wheel and got a whopping $10.
  • isnork wrote: »
    IP is still 5+1 ... Harrah's bad beat jackpot is still going ... moving to a spin the wheel
    Yuck, it looks like all Caesars/Harrahs-owned casinos now have a total rake of $6 for 1/2, while Seneca has maximum $4+1 for 1/2 and 2/5. I don't like Vegas poker room gimmicks and promotions which is basically an extra rake from tourists.

    Does anybody know which strip casinos have $4+0 rake? I hope that it's true that there are so many bad players in Vegas casinos that the relatively high rake is easily beatable.
    I honestly think unless I pushed pre-flop there was no chance this guy was leaving, he had been felted twice the night before with his "choice" of cards to play.
    You played the hand fine except for the turn. You just want to bet enough so that it would be incorrect for the calling station to chase. You want him to keep making incorrect calls so that he will eventually lose his whole stack again.
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Does anybody know which strip casinos have $4+0 rake? I hope that it's true that there are so many bad players in Vegas casinos that the relatively high rake is easily beatable. You played the hand fine except for the turn. You just want to bet enough so that it would be incorrect for the calling station to chase. You want him to keep making incorrect calls so that he will eventually lose his whole stack again.

    I don't know off hand but some are covered here: AllVegasPoker.com :: View Forum - The Strip
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    I hope that it's true that there are so many bad players in Vegas casinos that the relatively high rake is easily beatable.
    By the looks of it, I'd say yes.

    /g2
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