BIG PLO hand, for me at least...
compuease
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Playing on PS with Graham... comments?
P.S. Graham is closemaster..
PokerStars Game #16690753102: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/04/13 - 01:59:47 (ET)
Table 'Nemesis V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: compuease ($47.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Wonton Toby ($9 in chips)
Seat 3: cwharris61 ($36.30 in chips)
Seat 4: JVAFifty ($51.35 in chips)
Seat 5: closemaster ($88.40 in chips)
Seat 6: keystone35 ($52 in chips)
Wonton Toby: posts small blind $0.25
cwharris61: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to compuease [2h Kh Kc Qs]
JVAFifty: calls $0.50
closemaster: calls $0.50
keystone35: calls $0.50
compuease: calls $0.50
Wonton Toby: calls $0.25
cwharris61: checks
*** FLOP *** [8d Tc Ks]
Wonton Toby: checks
cwharris61: bets $2
JVAFifty: folds
closemaster: folds
keystone35: calls $2
compuease: raises $8.85 to $10.85
Wonton Toby: calls $8.50 and is all-in
cwharris61: calls $8.85
keystone35: folds
*** TURN *** [8d Tc Ks] [Th]
cwharris61: checks
compuease: bets $33.45
cwharris61: calls $24.95 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [8d Tc Ks Th] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cwharris61: shows (a full house, Tens full of Eights)
compuease: shows [2h Kh Kc Qs] (a full house, Kings full of Tens)
compuease collected $53.10 from side pot
closemaster said, "nh"
Wonton Toby: mucks hand
compuease collected $29 from main pot
closemaster said, "wtg jeff"
compuease said, "ty"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $85.10 Main pot $29. Side pot $53.10. | Rake $3
Board [8d Tc Ks Th Jc]
Seat 1: compuease (button) showed [2h Kh Kc Qs] and won ($82.10) with a full house, Kings full of Tens
Seat 2: Wonton Toby (small blind) mucked [5s 8h Ah Ad]
Seat 3: cwharris61 (big blind) showed and lost with a full house, Tens full of Eights
Seat 4: JVAFifty folded on the Flop
Seat 5: closemaster folded on the Flop
Seat 6: keystone35 folded on the Flop
P.S. Graham is closemaster..
PokerStars Game #16690753102: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/04/13 - 01:59:47 (ET)
Table 'Nemesis V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: compuease ($47.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Wonton Toby ($9 in chips)
Seat 3: cwharris61 ($36.30 in chips)
Seat 4: JVAFifty ($51.35 in chips)
Seat 5: closemaster ($88.40 in chips)
Seat 6: keystone35 ($52 in chips)
Wonton Toby: posts small blind $0.25
cwharris61: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to compuease [2h Kh Kc Qs]
JVAFifty: calls $0.50
closemaster: calls $0.50
keystone35: calls $0.50
compuease: calls $0.50
Wonton Toby: calls $0.25
cwharris61: checks
*** FLOP *** [8d Tc Ks]
Wonton Toby: checks
cwharris61: bets $2
JVAFifty: folds
closemaster: folds
keystone35: calls $2
compuease: raises $8.85 to $10.85
Wonton Toby: calls $8.50 and is all-in
cwharris61: calls $8.85
keystone35: folds
*** TURN *** [8d Tc Ks] [Th]
cwharris61: checks
compuease: bets $33.45
cwharris61: calls $24.95 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [8d Tc Ks Th] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cwharris61: shows (a full house, Tens full of Eights)
compuease: shows [2h Kh Kc Qs] (a full house, Kings full of Tens)
compuease collected $53.10 from side pot
closemaster said, "nh"
Wonton Toby: mucks hand
compuease collected $29 from main pot
closemaster said, "wtg jeff"
compuease said, "ty"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $85.10 Main pot $29. Side pot $53.10. | Rake $3
Board [8d Tc Ks Th Jc]
Seat 1: compuease (button) showed [2h Kh Kc Qs] and won ($82.10) with a full house, Kings full of Tens
Seat 2: Wonton Toby (small blind) mucked [5s 8h Ah Ad]
Seat 3: cwharris61 (big blind) showed and lost with a full house, Tens full of Eights
Seat 4: JVAFifty folded on the Flop
Seat 5: closemaster folded on the Flop
Seat 6: keystone35 folded on the Flop
Comments
nh
/g2
The equivalent hi lo player is the one that will call his entire stack heads up on a nut low draw only.
Kind of hard to think of a real Holdem equivalent, guess maybe a player who cant let go of his nut straight and calls a $200 bet into a $2 pot on a board of KcQcJh10h with an ace and no flush draw.
Don't ask questions when players play like that.
Regarding your hand you did what you should, move the betting bar as far to the right as possible before clicking raise, then hoping you are not against quads when you do that again on the turn :P
Before you go there I thought I was bluffing with just an ace high for a decent amount and a guy called a paired board + flush and straight draws and then mucked... I was shocked.
graham is an excellent player, and to call him there took a lot of guts!
The variance in PLO is tough spike a set and still lose your shirt!
WTG!!
cheers...
Good comments there though Bleemo... PLO is definitely high variance and not for the faint of heart. However if one is properly rolled I think it's a clear money maker, so many crossovers from NL that don't understand the difference...
Important to remember in PLO is your outs are cut in half, due to the 44 cards being dealt out(full table of course) rather then the usual 20 we're acustomed too playing HE.
If you don't have nut flush or pp in your hand your best option is to fold.
If the board flushes or pairs up and you have nether, fold.
That's how I play it anyway haven't the experience to actually throw a good chunk down at any PLO game although the way HE is being played these days(once again by the euros) it's really been crossing my mind.
52 cards in the deck.
44 get dealt out(once again full table)
=8 cards left
-3 burn cards
=the five that are coming on flop turn and river.
Chances that your outs are already in someone else's hand are pretty good.
aren't they?
Fact: This line makes ZERO sense.
Fact: I agree you don't have that much experience playing omaha.
Question: So why are you posting tips on how to play omaha?
Question: Is this reply constructive?
Fact: I watch too much of The Office.
/g2
that's just how I see it,I'll stick to higher FL cash games it's where I do my best work.
Bleemo if you don't understand that "where" your outs are is of absolutely no significance then I'm afraid there is little hope... (ie in your opponents hand, in the muck, in the burn or still in the unused deck).
I really am trying to be nice but it is very hard to understand you being a winning player long term at LHE, NL or PLO if you don't understand this so very basic of concepts...
I could care less what you beleive or don't believe compuease.
All you guys do is jump on any fucking bandwagon you can to gang up on an individual poster.
I suppose you all try and play the same $3 sng's at chan as well?
My BR is over 12k(aside from the bad beat i posted about) and I can tell you I didn't deposit 9k to get it there.
Go ahead and flame away, I'm done in here as far as I can see it's all about the pennies, which is a waste of time.
You're all far better players than me I must just be lucky, yeah that's it, lucky.
I'm not in here bragging about a $60 pot that's for sure I'll leave that to you guys, after all you're the pro's ( at flaming posts anyway)
have fun ganging up on the next new poster cause god knows that's what's gonna happen.
later penny sk8ter
Sorry to do this Graham, but Bleemo please don't let the door hit ya in the *** on the way out...
And by the way we have lots of new posters who come here with positive (non-bragging) types of posts who listen without their head up their ***.. I really tried to be nice but .....
And for any who care (snowflake et al) I really typed those asterisks, the system didn't do it for me..
you take the $60 pots and I'll take the $600 ones ok .. champ??
Read these and disagree if you like...
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and here
Poker Strategy - An Explanation of Hold 'Em Odds
and here
Texas Holdem Poker Rules by Akira Casino
Probably a thousand more places.. I think it may be called the law of statistical probability.. Invented long after I left school.... lol