Pot Odds - Always worth a call?

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  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    isn't this more defensive position? I thought the point of playing position was to be more aggressive and to take advantage of having the opportunity to make the last decision, not fold?

    The point of position is to see how your opponent(s) act before you make your move. If your opponents are passive, then yeah you can take an aggressive approach.
  • actyper wrote: »
    As for the hand itself, why do u figure 55, 66 or A5, A6 are so unlikely?

    When I have multiple allins and calls behind me, theres no way I figure my tptk is still good. Though at a 1/2 live table, I can somewhat see it being happening


    None of these hands have the imlied odds to call here pre-flop unless we are UBER-Deep. If these hands are inside of the range of these players then so are a ton of hands that I beat. If I am ahead of the range then I get my money in the middle

    With $200 in the middle and $250 behind I get it in. I think laying the hand down would be really bad.
  • Suited connectors are great if you can limp in late position with multiple callers, but are usually not worth calling a big raise (including JT) unless you have high implied odds.

    Based on your posts, I would strongly suggest that you reread AND understand Chapter 2 of Largay's book, especially the quizzes. Most casual poker players don't really understand pot odds, implied odds and EV, so you can make more money from these opponents if you learn these skills. As for understanding position better, David Sklansky's books will probably help.
    pokerJAH wrote: »
    Any constructive criticism that you have would be welcome. As you have dealt at my table before, you know that I typically play pretty tight but I do play the odd suited connectors (especially my favourite J10).
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Suited connectors are great if you can limp in late position with multiple callers, but are usually not worth calling a big raise (including JT) unless you have high implied odds.

    What is your thought process pre-flop? Are implied odds relevant pre-flop? Granted, you will call with cards with lessor value against large stacks if you have a better chance to double through. I think a light bulb has just gone on.
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    What is your thought process pre-flop?

    What is my position?
    What showdown value does my hand have?
    Can I make a sneaky little monster with this hand and get paid?
    How big of a pot am I willing to play with this hand?
    How big is my stack?
    How big is/are the stack(s) in front of me who have entered the pot?
    What is their range for entering the pot in the position that they are in?

    Who is yet to act behind me?
    What is their stack size?
    Have they looked at their cards yet? Do they look interested?
    Did they look at their stack after looking at their cards or are they looking a Kristy's ass?

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    That should get you started.

    pokerJAH wrote: »
    Are implied odds relevant pre-flop?

    ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY!!! They are most relevant pre-flop.
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    I understand that any two cards are worth a call when you are getting 4 to 1 on your money,

    It's good that you're checking this stuff out with this forum.

    No this is not true that any cards are worth 4 to 1.
    Lies like this are thrown around at the table to confuse people.

    For instance 27o is only 13% vs AA.
    You can call getting 8 to 1 but not 4 to 1.

    And that assumes you're not giving reverse implied odds.
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